Honestly, there is plenty of banter, but with a grain of salt I like reading stuff here because the tamer site looks the same every day. I like the strong opinions represented here because it makes me think. Nothing wrong with that. I have money in tamer, so I hope this works out one way or another, and frankly I'm encouraged that Brock seems to want to make something happen. No doubt his passion still carries through, even though he and the battery club saw things differently. No matter what, everyone wins if tamer becomes the vision that it was when the nickels were coming in.