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augieboo

11/20/02 5:20 PM

#47676 RE: limtex #47672

Limtex, (or anybody), did you listen to the conference call on HPQ? (I didn't, so I'm wondering what they said/say/whatever.)





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Alex G

11/20/02 6:16 PM

#47692 RE: limtex #47672

..HPQ is pretty wide spread across the country and globe. It is as representative as you could get in terms of revenues.<<

So you are saying their report is bullish?

They beat dumbed-down revenues, but then said-
" it doesn't see any meaningful improvement in IT spending or capital spending... is planning for a selling season that is about 1/3 below normal, adds that it is not counting on a strong holiday buying... says pension expense will be materially higher in FY03 versus FY02

also... "it will use its analyst meeting Dec. 3-4 to discuss its outlook, and industry outlook, in more detail".... (good idea, save the bad news for later ;^)

just shorted some DELL at 29.76 and some AMZN at 23.44 in AH's

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Lane Hall-Witt

11/21/02 10:09 AM

#47874 RE: limtex #47672

limtex--

The erumpent reaction to HPQ is bizarre, to say the least. They're making good money in their Printer business, as expected. But they're losing money in PCs and Enterprise and also lost over $100 million in Financing (largely due to bad loans in Latin America). Looking forward, HPQ certainly didn't say things are getting worse; but they're expecting corporate IT spending to remain weak, and they projected a weak holiday bounce. They beat consensus sales numbers last quarter largely because they lowballed their guidance, with so much uncertainty surrounding the integration of HWP and CPQ. Next quarter, earnings optimism stems principally from cost-cutting, including an extra 1,000 in headcount reductions that they had not built into their original integration plan.

It looks like HPQ is executing well, and I for one am extremely surprised by that because I've always thought of Carly Fiorina more as a spinmeister than an operations hawk. I'm glad they're doing well, because I've long liked the story of Hewlett and Packard and because I've known some good people at the company. But I didn't hear anything from them that should lead to this market-wide euphoria.