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12/17/10 2:56 PM

#83189 RE: wEaReLeGiOn #83181

JB TURNS MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEM INTO GOLD.

In the United States, plastic used to create bottles uses an estimated 15 million barrels of oil annually. (Wikepedia ... "Bottled Water Phenomenon").

An estimated 50 billion bottles of water are consumed per annum in the US and around 200 billion bottles globally. (Wikepedia).

"How can anyone ever ever ever argue with the FACT that JB, and each one of us that contribute as shareholders, is focused to relentlessly eliminate this problem ... converting it back to useable fuel for the Human Race. It is a good thing."
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Steady_T

12/17/10 3:04 PM

#83194 RE: wEaReLeGiOn #83181

Doesn't look like France is all that wonderful about recycling plastic according to this report. They send more than half of their recovered plastic to energy conversion. The JBI process would be welcome in France

www.mepex.no/epro-statistics-2008.doc


European Association of Plastics Recycling and Recovery Organisations
www.epro-plasticsrecycling.org

Statistics 2008

. In terms of overall plastics ‘recovery’, 51.3% of post-consumer used plastics in Europe (EU27+2) were recovered in 2008, with the rest going to disposal. Of the 51.3% recovered, 5.3m tonnes were recycled – as material and feedstock – and 7.5m tonnes were recovered as energy.

According to the report the following ten states; Germany, Estonia, Czech, Belgium, Sweden, Austria, Switzerland, Norway, the Netherlands and Slovenia – recycled more than 30% of their plastic packaging.

NOTICE that France is not on that list.

In France the system also focuses on rigid plastics (bottles), but French households sort out some flexible plastics as well. France now considers whether it makes sense to expand the system to comprise all plastic packaging. How to sort, recycle and recover such a mixed stream of plastic packaging is a main issue, EPRO says.

According to this.....mostly plastic bottles are recycled.....Hmmmmm just the sort of plastic that JBI wants to avoid.


http://www.epro-plasticsrecycling.org/_verwaltung/members/downloads/Microsoft%20Word%20-%20France%20%202009.pdf
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Justice37

12/17/10 3:11 PM

#83198 RE: wEaReLeGiOn #83181

Here is some plastic and landfill information.

Making new plastic requires significant amounts of fossil fuels. Studies suggest that between 7% and 8% of the world’s fossil fuels are used in producing new plastics. This doesn’t sound like a great amount, but it accounts for millions of tons of fuels per year. Recycling could preserve these fuels—even reuse them in other markets.

Plastic is easy to recycle - although few people do it. All plastic can be recycled. But it’s not being recycled as much as it should be. Some studies show that only 10% of plastic bottles created are recycled, leaving that extra 90% to take up space in landfills and killing ocean life.

Plastic bottles take up space in landfills. Our country’s landfills are closing at a rate of around two per day. The landfill-space crisis is especially problematic in cities, where inner-city trash dumps are often filled to capacity, and surrounding communities are unwilling to allow new landfills to come to their neighborhoods. Many coastal cities use the ocean as a dumping ground, resulting in depleted fish stock, polluted beaches, and other health issues for the inhabitants. Plastic bottles make up approximately 11% of the contents of landfills.

Incinerating plastic contributes to greenhouse gases. To save space at landfills, plastics are often burned in incinerators. When this is done, chemicals, petroleum, and fossil fuels used in the manufacturing process are released into the atmosphere, adding to greenhouse gas emissions.

Plastic in the oceans is responsible for the deaths of millions of sea animals. Plastic bottles floating on the surface of the oceans can look like food to larger sea life—often with fatal consequences. In addition, fish, sea birds, and other ocean creatures often get caught in plastic rings that strangle them or constrict their throats so that they cannot swallow.

Plastic takes a long time to degrade. Nobody is quite sure how long it takes for plastic to biodegrade—it hasn’t been around long enough, and the first plastics made are still around today. Scientists believe, however, that plastics will take hundreds of years to degrade fully—if not longer. Plastics as we know them have only been around a hundred years, and they are already a problem. Imagine five hundred years’ worth of plastics in our landfills.

Plastics contain harmful chemicals. These include cadmium, lead, PVC, and other pollutants in the form of artificial coloring, plasticizers, and stabilizers. Some of these have been discovered to be harmful and are not in currently-manufactured plastics, but the older, more toxic plastics are still filling up our landfills and floating around in our oceans, releasing pollutants into the environment. These can seep into groundwater from landfill runoff and cause health risks for both wildlife and humans.

www.professorshouse.com/Your-Home/Environment/Recycling/Articles/Why-Recycle-Plastic/

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Justice37

12/17/10 3:25 PM

#83204 RE: wEaReLeGiOn #83181

Here's some more information regarding plastic and landfills:

Earth’s Oceans: Our Largest Plastic Landfills
axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_58030.shtml



Recycling 1 ton of plastic saves 7.4 cubic yards of landfill space.earth911.com/recycling/plastic/plastic-bottle-recycling-facts/



When a plastic bottle enters a landfill, it can take hundreds of years to decay, and it can have a profound environmental impact. The route to the landfill is often quite long, as plastic bottles are a very common form of litter around the world, requiring volunteers or government agencies to collect such bottles and bring them to a facility for recycling or other forms of disposal. As plastic bottles decay, they take up precious landfill space, and some leach harmful chemicals into the ground, potentially polluting the soil and water.

Because landfills are so tightly packed, some scientists are concerned that the rate of decay in landfills could be even slower than previously surmised, as the conditions are not optimal for breakdown. Landfills in general pose a serious problem in many parts of the world, as they contain a broad mixture of items which could potentially be recycled, including precious metals, along with potentially dangerous and toxic products. Plastic bottles take up an alarming amount of landfill space, especially when one considers that they shouldn't be in landfills at all.
www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-life-cycle-of-a-plastic-bottle.htm

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pokio

12/17/10 8:32 PM

#83336 RE: wEaReLeGiOn #83181

Simple, keep plastic bottles re-streamed as plastic.
It really is that simple. They're reformed back into bottles.


Air pollution is our headiest and quickest instigator of death. Genius Johnny would like to further be envisaged as a polluter of our environment by offering how many airborne-cancer causing chemicals for our children to breath, and turning how many otherwise benign landfill waste-plastic management sites into various gaseous poisons?


Plastic in landfill is more or less benign.
Plastic converted to fuel, and under the direct auspices of combustion, becomes an agent for a myriad of human disease.



I have a few questions for you. What is involved in the process of recycling plastic? Does it have to be washed a few times? Does it have to be chemically processed? Does it have to be chopped and then melted? Are you implying that none of these processes emit any "airborne-cancer causing chemicals for our children to breath"? Do these factories operate in a bubble?

By the way, I just heard that they want to landfill plastic in your backyard. Any objections?
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Rawnoc

12/17/10 9:03 PM

#83340 RE: wEaReLeGiOn #83181

Recycled Plastics - Dangerous For The Environment And Your Health

"plastic production is an extremely toxic process. Compared to glass, production of polyethylene terephthalate (PET) releases 100 times the number of toxic chemicals into the atmosphere."

"Plastic recycling requires significant amounts of energy, compared to glass."

http://ezinearticles.com/?Recycled-Plastics---Dangerous-For-The-Environment-And-Your-Health&id=1178619

France is on the forefront of keeping plastics as plastic, with zero secondary impact on the environment.

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Rawnoc

12/17/10 9:07 PM

#83341 RE: wEaReLeGiOn #83181

"...recycling of plastic is very uneconomical, dirty and labour-intensive as has been reveled by a study conducted by the Public Interest Research Group, based in Dehi, India.

Recycling of plastic is associated with skin and respiratory problems, resulting from exposure to and inhalation of toxic fumes, especially hydrocarbons and residues released during the process. What is worse, the recycled plastic degrades in quality and necessitates the production of more new plastic to make the original product.

Plastic wastes clog the drains and thus hit especially urban sewage systems. The plastic wastes being dumped into rivers, streams and seas contaminate the water, soil, marine life and also the very air we breathe. Choked drains provide excellent breeding grounds for disease-causing mosquitoes besides causing flooding during the monsoons.

Any attempt to ?get rid of? plastic through landfills is also dangerous. Apart form toxic seepage from the landfill, resulting in the contamination of precious water sources, the waste mass impedes the flow of ground water as well and obstructs the movement of roots ? thereby badly affecting the soil?s biological balance and organic processes.

Landfills are also prone to leaks. The wastes ? especially cadmium and lead in the wastes ? invariably mix with rain water, then seep through the ground and drain into nearby streams and lakes and other water bodies. Thus the water we use gets poisoned."

http://www.dancewithshadows.com/business/pharma/plastic.asp

Plastic in landfill is more or less benign.