I got suckered into grsr by the iceman also to the tune of 50,000 dollars. I also got into another one 3 years or so ago.The company is LNGT.Pk, a lazer company. It hasn't done much and the iceman hasn't pushed it for about 2-3 years. They just partered with General Dynamics in June. It has a lot of patients and my be worth a look at. I've read your posts for years but don't express myself that often.