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jackboy

12/02/10 7:05 PM

#1928 RE: goombah #1926

gombah have you r3ead the info on the ASC site cause it says in there that the guy who started tsho is the guy who ran skymark and he and debeers know each other and it also says other stuff in there as well so maybe you should read it...i am not a smart guy but i aksed a buddy whose son is a lawyer and he tole me that anytime you file and i copy and pasted his emails to his son who gave them to me since i aksed him to ask his son and here is what he said.

Dad, it is not always so cut and dry but normally upon filing an appeal with any court and I am assuming the Alberta Securities Commission is a quasi-judicial body but there are a number of factors which could be at play. You write up your appeal and application with the idea you have reasonable grounds for doing so with reasonable grounds for thinking your application will be succesful. There is normally a cost associated with filing an appeal and this cost is not great in many cases although the legal fees can quickly add up but the overriding decision to file an appeal and expecting it to be successful is paramount at the outset. The client would have provided their attorney with the reasons why they feel the order put in place against them should be lifted and the legal team would have applied those reasons to whichever rules/regulations were deemed to have been breached resulting in the order being granted. The fact they did make the application and then withdrew it can mean a number of things and take your pick which one you might choose to be the real reason:

1)-There would be no material change of benefit to the company so the order remaining in place would have a limited effect on the company being able to conduct its business. I doubt this was the case as this may have presented itself as a possibility prior to making any application of appeal. You have to be clear between the material change of benefit to the company vs that of the shareholders.

2)-The legal team hired by the client may have made some discovery that would lead them to believe the application would not result in the order being lifted and cancelled the application saving the client some money as they would not have to pay to have legal counsel at the hearing which they likely would lose.

3)-The client could be attempting to remedy the situation or plea bargaining and resolve those issues which resulted in an order being granted rather than continue with the appeal process but again, those would have been considered options prior to an appeal being made.

From what I can gather after reading the order, it would have had a limited effect on the market place as it appears it only applies to residents of the province the alledged offense took place in. Unless the company explicitly states why it no longer is pursuing the appeal option you can only speculate as to why.
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rufustherat

12/02/10 8:58 PM

#1929 RE: goombah #1926

So goobah, you don't believe the Street Sweeper article, and you do not believe the evidence in the ASC cease order ? Do you have ANY evidence that ANY part of the above documents is false ? If so please present it. After all this, the onus is on the true believers to disprove the evidence at least in part. There is enough smoke to know that there is a blaze here.

You can choose not to believe anything and call it day when it is night or call your car a horse cart, but there is more enough evidence presented to show that these were a bunch of crooks running a P&D scam. 6 months trading ban is not given out just because someone at ASC did not like the cigar De beers was smoking, they have to have undisputed proof of major hanky panky. Then also, the latest ASC bulletin laid to rest any doubts whatsoever that it was all a P&D scam, and if that does not convince you, then nothing perhaps other than brain surgery will.

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