Replies to post #77855 on Plastic2Oil Inc (PTOI)

[PaperProphet]

Re:<"Specifications: Unit: KGs, Quantity: 40,000, Packing: Gaylord Boxes, Price: 70" "With just a few minutes of effort, I brought your over-inflated $500/ton claim down to $70/ton, your claim being off by 614%.">

Great, Rawnoc. Now please tell me how you interpreted the price of "70" with units in "kg" to mean $70/ton. If I had to make a wild guess, I would say they probably meant $0.70/kg.

That would be $636/ton in Canadian dollars which is probably why that ad has been sitting there since June of 2009 and why the plastic wasn't snapped up.

Any others you want me to interpret for you?

[jimmenknee]

Oh dear-- that's revisionist history :-(

On another side note, I find it interesting that the scrap industrial waste plastic was packed in Gaylord boxes. Why? Because it was falsely claimed after the P2O video from JBII that anything packed in a Gaylord box must be brand new plastic from Gaylord's. I thought that was laughable when I first heard it, and now it's proven.

What was/is claimed is the boxes came from Michael Day Enterprises, which was bought out by Radici. The logo MDE is unique. The contention is that JBI paid for the plastics-- not "brand new;" but rather "pre-processed," which is the assertion some are making if JBI wants to get the quality of plastic necessary to produce the yield suggested.

You know, that's the largest difference between the "black slurry" and the "beautiful golden liquid" -- input.

Glad to see at least you are moving off the "free" herring-- progress is progress no matter how small :-)

[OverDraught]

FYI, Gaylord does not make plastic. They make boxes.

Big ones.

I find it interesting that the scrap industrial waste plastic was packed in Gaylord boxes. Why? Because it was falsely claimed after the P2O video from JBII that anything packed in a Gaylord box must be brand new plastic from Gaylord's.

[jjsmith]

So you are saying that the $10 per barrel claims are false. I agree with you. Your example below for feedstock is $.05 which means $100 per ton times 20 tons - $2,000.00. So that's $18/barrel just in feedstock. Even at 70 per ton that is $12 per barrel. So how would they produce it for $10 if by your own admission is costs $12-18 just for feedstock? I'm glad we are finally on the same page. I agree with you 100%. It isn't possible. PS I think the price of 70 meant $.70 per kilo which is over $600 per ton.

Gaylord box must be brand new plastic from Gaylord's

FYI, gaylord is just a term used for a triple corregated box. LOL. The boxes were labeled MDE which stands for Micheal Day Enterprises. Nice try.

Here's an example of RECYCLABLE hydrocarbon-only plastic that took me a few minutes to find for $70/ton in Canada. $500/ton? Please. And I didn't even bother searching for the non or difficult to recycle kind.

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HDPE Inj Grade

Specifications: Unit: KGs, Quantity: 40,000, Packing: Gaylord Boxes, Price: 70
[Richmond Hill, Canada]

http://www.recycleinme.com/rim-united36/selloffer-24342.aspx

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In addition, I found others on that RECYCLING website for .04 and .05 per pound. So, with barely even trying, your $500/ton insistence is almost as shallow as claiming there isn't a market for diesel fuel made from plastic. With just a few minutes of effort, I brought your over-inflated $500/ton claim down to $70/ton, your claim being off by 614%.

On another side note, I find it interesting that the scrap industrial waste plastic was packed in Gaylord boxes. Why? Because it was falsely claimed after the P2O video from JBII that anything packed in a Gaylord box must be brand new plastic from Gaylord's. I thought that was laughable when I first heard it, and now it's proven.