Replies to post #77831 on Plastic2Oil Inc (PTOI)

[stocker11]

It is my understanding that they use Nitrogen to eliminate oxygen.


If he uses mixed plastic for cheaper then he is going to have an issue with PET and all the other plastics that contain oxygen.

[Steady_T]

While you are explaining why everything is wrong with the JBII process, please explain where that 14.6% Oxygen in the stack test data came from?

If hydrocarbon only plastics were being used then the O2 levels should be much closer to 0 for a normal, efficient burner. Hmmmmmmmm

[Zardiw]

Any speculation about the chemistry of the JBII Plastic to Oil process is fruitless .....Islechem, a WELL respected company composed of salty seasoned CHEMISTS....has already done all the work...and fyi they also were skeptical when first introduced to the process.....You wanna see their OFFICIAL POSITION on the process?...Here it is:



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[terryels]

If he uses mixed plastic for cheaper then he is going to have an issue with PET and all the other plastics that contain oxygen. Pyrolysis tends to create a lot of acids, ketones, etc..., which are hard to separate out. But if he uses mixed plastic, he might as well use landfill waste for the same rough percentages of carbon and oxygen. Again, if it wasn't a problem then everyone else would already be doing it.

I am reviewing JBI's technology for a colleague and am interested in hearing from you why technically the process will have problems with PETE?


Pyrolysis tends to create a lot of acids, ketones, etc...

If JBI's process was a 500C pyrolysis process with random scission then I would agree that the fuel would be a solid-state low value fuel. The process JBI has developed is not a 500C random scission pyrolysis machine. You are comparing apples to oranges. Like comparing LNG process to a crude refinery.

Again, if it wasn't a problem then everyone else would already be doing it.

A very dangerous assumption in this industry and many others. We commission new technologies in our refinery to overcome barriers others cannot. That affords us a competitive advantage.