I've had this internet conversation with moto at least ten times.
It started off with him being the believer & me saying no way, then it's kind of switched...no really!
It goes something like this...either one of us saying:
"This thing's a sc*m, no it's not. I think it's real, really? Maybe, I dunno but either way it still s*cks."
Always Me: "Yeah but I don't think this is it's high, it'll get above this at some point.
I think we had this dialogue at .04, .035, .03, .025, .02, .015, .01, .0095, .009, .0085, .008, .0075, .007, .0065, .006, .005
Thanks Tina!