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Paula, my mistake, assumed you knew him as one of the paramount conspiracy
theorists around. Griffin is big in the 9/11 'truther' movement .. http://www.911truth.org/

On the other hand, Brad Friedman, of BRAD BLOG, .. http://www.bradblog.com/?cat=89&paged=5 .. i've read is not a 'truther' conspiracy believer.

You said you were watching a video with Griffin at .. http://davidraygriffin.org/ .. i listened to a couple of minutes .. hmm, didn't know that people thought of 'truthers' as 'liberal communists' .. lol .. ok, they mentioned one of the 'Loose Change' movies .. here are a couple of mine on that subject ..

Early on .. October 17, 2006 .. hmmm, LOOSE CHANGE ... if you haven't watched you
owe it to yourself and all your fellow citizens, of the world, to do so. .. a tiny nothing more in there ..
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=14061557&txt2find=loose|change

Then, December 15, 2009, and a number of others before and after, you can see i was looking at it .. The evolution of Loose Change?, .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loose_Change_%28film%29 .. if interested bear with me, if not, well, you would have less painful and more productive things to do. Anyway ..

History .. In May 2002, Dylan Avery began looking into the 9/11 attacks, and based on his research he concluded they were not a terrorist attack involving only members of Al Qaeda, but rather that they were an attack orchestrated by members of the United States government. ..
MUCH MORE in that one .. and before and after ..http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=44526724

My position today is as it was back then, i don't believe that it was a conspiracy,
possible but 'most improbable', and i grew to not trust Alex Jones, another conspiracy guy.

Ok, now do you know? .. James Randi Educational Foundation .. 7 Oct 2010 ... "A magician and skeptic debunks psychics,
medical frauds, televangelists, and others. Offers a million dollar reward for proof of occult", ... http://www.randi.org/site/

Here is some of Randi's .. contradictions of David Ray Griffin .. one bit ..

6.1 About his book "The New Pearl Harbor":

"there's nothing original in the book in terms of facts, as all I have done is really pull together, synthesize, and organize the evidence that other researchers before me had pulled out from the various sources"
www.garlicandgrass.org/issue6...le_Griffin.cfm

Nothing original by a conspiracy theorist? How come this doesn't surprise me at all.

And who were those "other researchers" he is talking about? Eric Hufschmid, Jeff King, Peter Meyer, Jim Hoffman and Thierry Meyssan to name a few. Hufschmid is a holocaust denier. Peter Meyer is an Alex Jones -like conspiracy theorist who supports every single wacky theory. He wrote an article about controlled demolition only 2 days after 9/11. Jim Hoffman is a software engineer, who was convinced 9/11 was an inside job after reading a controlled demolition article by Jim McMichael written a month after the attacks. Jeff King cites Eric Hufschmid and thinks black technology was possibly used to bring the towers down. Thierry Meyssan is a French author, who invented the Pentagon missile theories and became a best selling author for a short while in France. He didn't visit the U.S. while writing his book.

Then there are these statements, which contradict reason. .. more inside .. http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=116298

One other of is his .. "James Randi, CIA, Mind Control, FMSF, Selective Human Breeding, Rockey & Pellwinkle and the Pariahs Behind the Ritual Abuse of Children" ..


http://www.whale.to/b/randi_h.html

Yes, sadly and badly, it is fairly widely known that the US used Bin Laden's group in the ex Yugoslavia, and other
places .. not so much well known that that they were used in China, too .. here is the Daily Kos link from yours ..
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/7/31/760117/-Bombshell:-Bin-Laden-worked-for-US-till-9-11

This was Sybill Edmonds old web site .. This Web site was created as a nonpartisan effort to:

• Provide information in the form of interviews, articles, court and legal documents, and statements and press releases of various organizations and agencies about the ongoing efforts of Former FBI Translator and now "Whistleblower" Sibel Edmonds in her pursuit to overcome the government's misuse of the "state secrets privelege" and to be able to exercise via the court system her Constitutional rights and perform her responsibilities as an American citizen by making the American public aware of critical shortcomings in our government’s ability to protect the country against foreign espionage and terrorist threats.

• Provide a quick and easy way for American citizens to contact their representatives in the U.S. Congress to raise awareness and demand action in regards to Sibel Edmonds’ plight.

In addition, we aim to motivate the American public to Urge Congress to Act Now, because, while it may appear that the actions of an individual citizen cannot have much of an impact on the affairs of the nation as a whole, as "just a citizen," U CAN make a difference, a big difference, simply by contacting members of Congress to demand that they represent YOU in the important decisions that must be made to ensure a safer society and a thriving democracy. .. http://www.justacitizen.com/ .. many links in there ..

This is Sybill Edmonds new site .. .. http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/

Apology for some disjointedness, i wandered.