Thanks for the explaination! I just joined this blog but have been watching you guys go back and forth for months. I own 5.7 million shares at a PPS of .0033 so if it goes to .01 I will triple my investment. I know you are frustrated as well as myself as we have all watched our investment disappear. I believe GELV will be a successful company, just don't know when. For those who believe Karen and GELV is a scam, it is not. I am from Michigan and have been by the GELV offices. We may all be disaappointed in Karen now but she is doing what she has to do to keep the company running in order to make it successful. You have to remember GELV is a new company but Karen is well educated with degrees from Purdue and Pepperdine and has owned her own companies in the past. Hope she can come thru for us!!!