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mediatik

08/10/10 6:10 PM

#279654 RE: mytigger #279651

Great post lets have that honest discussion pm for you
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BDkeg

08/10/10 6:20 PM

#279655 RE: mytigger #279651

great post as well with legitimate concerns.

I'm tapped out as well until after my wedding, but I will continue to do everything I can to support our plays and the Den family.
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faxedreceipts

08/10/10 6:21 PM

#279656 RE: mytigger #279651

Good post!
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rekit

08/10/10 6:24 PM

#279657 RE: mytigger #279651

great post, written respectfully and very classy. it really sums up a lot of what I've heard behind the scenes recently. nicely done. I hope these concerns are addressed to comfort and console those suffering from the past few months
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craigw

08/10/10 6:27 PM

#279661 RE: mytigger #279651

nice post and respectfully done, for some reason I didn't have you person marked, sorry for that and taken care of..
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paducah

08/10/10 6:28 PM

#279665 RE: mytigger #279651

Great Post, a lot of us that don't get the PM's are out in the cold and wondering the same thing. We did our part of buying and holding, now where do we go. I have been in since Jan.also. Proud owner of G and C. Just wish I could show them off to my friends. Some day we will get where we are supposed to be but when and how. I will be attending the Monkinar in Colorado when they get the dates set. See some of you then, until then keeping fingers and toes and legs and arms crossed. Can barely type this way.
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macjoga

08/10/10 6:29 PM

#279666 RE: mytigger #279651

Tig, as I said privately and now I'll say it publicly, i'm with you on the tapped out list and if all I can do is hold, i'll gladly do just that.

I think your post was very well written and certainly respectful of Monk and the team here. Please sign my name to it.

-macjoga
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DayTradingAlgo

08/10/10 7:23 PM

#279721 RE: mytigger #279651

Very well written.

I am in the same boat as you, and kind of the same boat as Craig Baker at this point.

I have brought friends, family, and friends of family into the FLD's and not surprisingly enough I have not talked to my parents, brother, aunt, a few of my friends, and my parents best friends for going on a month now.....Many of them will not return my phone calls and one of them has threatened to take me to court just as of 2 hours ago....

So I feel you, and I pray we get some sort of answer here, some sort of plan, something to help out all of the folks that bought in hook, line, and sinker that are sitting in very bad situations presently.
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duke00324

08/10/10 7:32 PM

#279732 RE: mytigger #279651

...courageous post, sir...

...sometimes you have to question the authority to get the appropriate attention...

...one of your best points was with regard to the two (2) additional "plays"...

...that was beyond logic, IMO...

..."Hey, throw $100K here and $150K there...oh!, but wait...another $75K to THIS one and $90K to THAT one"...

..."We'll play "FLD Roulette"!...

...BIG mistake, IMO...and my posting history shows me saying this WEEKS ago...

...it's about time ONE of you showed some humility and sensed some reality (not meant as an insult)...

...and it's darn good that you are being supported (as evidenced in the responses to your post)...

...the key now is, I believe, not letting go of your desire for clarity and direction and ANSWERS...you guys need ONE to "squeeze" SOON, IMO...or else you might wind up losing them all...

...how you get there, I really do not know...as has been said here alot recently, ALOT of posters appear "tapped out"...not good...

...I hope you feel my sincerity...I've had a few laughs at some of you guys antics, but I know the pain of taking a BIG hit...probably ALL of us do...

...but your post has unleashed a torrent of honesty from some of your fellow "teammates", calling for an honest discussion...gotta like that!...

...here's to hoping that one does occur...SOON...

...a lesson to be learned here?...you bet!!!...for ALL of us...

...Good Luck to you...Duke...
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butterfly89

08/10/10 8:02 PM

#279766 RE: mytigger #279651

I think what some people are failing to see in Monk's comments are that we cannot rely on him, Ex, Billy Jack, and a few others to do all of the buying while we go along for the ride. There are many people here that are daytrading and need to help themselves and the team out where they can. I have added to my position when I can with those proceeds and will continue to do so as the funds are available.

I will say that if you think people didn't come to the den for Monk's sucky picks then you are kidding yourself. I agree that this is a unique board and there is a lot of fellowship here but let's be honest. He said the pick is CDIV and people flooded the stock. If some of those had not flipped out of CDIV when GRNO or PNTV were called then we would have been a lot farther alongin this battle. But undersand that those were individual choices made by indivdual investors. He cannot control the behavior of others. He shared in the monkinar that he has done these before with investors who have since retired and left the market. If it were all about him then he could have continued in that arena and made all the money he wanted. And sadly he probably would have had a lot less headaches. But that isn't who he is. He has given us the oportunity to improve our lives based on his idea and hard work. It must be difficult for him to watch the price falter and the boards fall apart when he is away. I can only imagine the crap that he gets in his mailbox each and every day. We need to stand up for ourselves, our stocks and our den family. As much as I like him, he is not the great white hope ( sorry Jerry). It is my responsibility to do more than log on to my brokerage account and see where we closed the day.

I have been absent from the boards and a few here know why. I personally have been having a rough time lately and I just didn't have any more to give. Fortunately things have started to level off and I've started to come around more. I'm still in CDIV and EIGH. Those were my first FLD's and the ones that I will continue to focus on. I've suffered the loses just like every else but I haven't given up. I chose not to buy GRNO or PNTV because I just couldn't do it. (Although I have been eyeing PNTV recently.) I told Jerry how I felt at the time in a PM and why. He said he had a plan then and I left it at that. Will I miss out on a pop? Possibly. But it is my decision to make. I'm not going to blame him if GRNO runs and I didn't buy it.

I think the thing that irritates me the most is that some on the boards expect Jerry to wave a wand and everything is going to be GREAT! Well he can't say how many shares someone else is going to short. He can't say when Nazir will file for uplisting. He can't say how many people are going to flip. I would bet if he said tomorrow that XYZ stock was the next FLD that the volume on all of the current FLDs would reflect a change in focus of some people who need to take their ADD meds more regularly. Hopefully when we get onto a private message board some of these leeches will fall off and we can in fact act in tandem and keep 'em guessing. Until then I will continue to trade my account and do what I need to do to improve my price average in the stocks that I hold instead of trying to chase.
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grooverider

08/10/10 9:40 PM

#279867 RE: mytigger #279651

Person Mark for this post. I agree with you. I'm down huge just as much as everyone else..but something in my head keeps screaming "last stand". I think the MM's know what they are doing and are trying to give us a knock out punch and they're clearly working on our minds right now.
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Hawks_Stocks

08/11/10 4:59 AM

#280047 RE: mytigger #279651

I've been conflicted by your post on several levels. I feel I have come up with a response that will fulfill my need to say something and allow us to still be on each others good side. That is the intent if I come across any other way.

First, Bravo on the team stance. I remain the same also, and any questioners on that can kiss it.

Second, I would like to say that the amount of money you are down (at the moment) is incredible and I feel for you (somewhat). A good chunk of us have to our name outside of the FLD's the amount of money you just received in your bonus check. We are struggling to survive and even with selling our FLD's it would delay the ugliness that is our situations for another month. To us, reaching your level of financial status would be considered "getting rich."

I talk to them in PM's and we are SALIVATING to get to a Monkinar. Even if we sold our FLD's now, we might be able to get to a Monkinar, but we would have nothing to trade with afterwards. We've been talking for months that this is our goal. To go to a Monkinar, make enough money to support ourselves, AND BE MEMBERS OF THIS TEAM TO BE LOOKED UP TO. We want this to happen and want to pass it along.

Now my main point: You recently got a check for $7,000. The price of the Basic and advanced together is $2,500, and lets double that for expenses. $5,000. But instead of signing up for one of these, which may I add.. You could have met the man you trusted with your $200,000,you decided to throw the money into PNTV and GRNO. It could be argued that it's been advised to be in all 4 and that's why you chose them instead of averaging down on your other holdings. Or it could be argued, that there was no doubt the "rumor" that G was going, and then PNTV and that is what attracted you to them, and you decided to go with the "easy way." I can tell you if I were down $100,000 what I would have done, and that would be meet the man I trusted to "play" that amount of money and learn how to make some back while the FLD's played out, for dang sure.

Basically, what I am trying to say is you have/had the money to go to something that a lot of us are twitching our legs rearing to run to, but yet you took the easy route and decided to once again let Monk lead the way instead taking a step to do this by yourself. And now you call him out publicly when you had the chance to meet him and learn to make your OWN returns and not rely on others and then question them.

Thank you for slapping me and several others in the face... You think when one of these squeezes, we will just wait on the next Monk pick. Heck no, we will be hightailing it to a Monkinar, then using profits from what we learned to accumulate the next FLD after that. And get to lead the way, having consistent returns, and not having to say "I'm tapped out brotha."

I do see where you are coming from in your post and understand your motivations behind it. But it seems to me you may have had the key to your future placed in your hand and you threw it in the moat to take the easy way by following Monk's lead.
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Blinton

08/11/10 11:57 AM

#280347 RE: mytigger #279651

I'm torn. 

This is a great post. I'm in the same boat as you, and I'd like more specifics on the FLDs... BUT...

But I also understand where monk and the core members are coming from.  They don't know who they can share their secret sauce with... And if they become too liberal with the privileged secrets then they will enviably provide flippers and MM spies with details that may set us back.

Honestly, if share count is all that matters, then I wonder why we don't encourage the PPS to drop like a rock so we can load the boat?  Maybe only because people would panic a little like they're starting to publicly admit in response to this post... Which is a terrible idea by the way.  The market makers can stall out as long as they see benefit to it, I can only assume.  And the more we openly admit doubt... Then the more they'll apply pressure and continue stalling.  You can count on that.
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Skunkdoc

10/13/10 1:05 PM

#310528 RE: mytigger #279651

Never should have let the traitors sway us from continuing to make CDIV the focus.
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Skunkdoc

10/13/10 1:10 PM

#310534 RE: mytigger #279651

I will add of note that Monk never publicly addressed our concerns here for those not privy to Monkinar's.
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Specalculator1

11/21/10 11:10 PM

#317889 RE: mytigger #279651

nice post, best to all.

i'm not down a dime since I didn't buy into the whole thing in the first place. just sayin..

I'm up for the whole year, not by much but still green going into the last 2 months of the year.

glta