Patrick, Lots of bad news today. If the market can somehow get thru this today without too much damage, it may augur well for zeevs scenario. Imo you need a day where bad news is ignored/discounted. We havent had one of those days in almost a year and the bears are very confident today. Hopefully they will be a little shaken eod. Odd against it. Michigan sentiment numbers coming today. Maybe less gloom will do it. marv