Ken's ANS: After the 3 year option is execised then comes a feasibilty study which would cost nothing less then $50 million to which Vale will have to pay 80% of the cost. If there is not an ecomomical deposit then we've saved our money and Vale has wasted its. Also, most deals like this for a smaller company like KAT might just stand the chance of only being able to retain a 2% NSR(net smeltering royality). A copper/silver deposit such as could possibly be on the Lucky property has the potential to be valued at $5 billion and much more. That being the case KAT owning 20% of the deposit would equal in value of $1 billion for KAT, which any company would be happy to own. Therefore 20% of an economical deposit has tremendous value for a company. I can't put it better than the man himself. We good.