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HoosierHoagie

06/06/10 7:24 AM

#322431 RE: Tuff-Stuff #322429

Guns and Crime: The Tale of Two Countries
By
Matt
Published: June 6, 2010



http://conservativehideout.com/wordpress/2010/06/06/guns-and-crime-the-tale-of-two-countries/



One of the liberal narratives, that guns cause crime, is taking a shellacking via reality. Of course, what you are about to read will NEVER appear in the MSM (unless they want to give Obama credit for it). Let’s take a look at two countries, and their attitude towards guns.

First up, the US. As we all know, Americans are purchasing firearms in record numbers. While it peaked after Obama’s election, the numbers had been rising steadily since 2005. It would seem that Firearms are the only private industry that Obama has actually stimulated. Pajamas Media has looked into the matter, and published a pretty comprehensive report.

Between November 2005 and October 2009, nearly every month’s requests were higher than the year before. (For example, there were 12.4% more NICS requests in September 2009 than in September 2008.) The sole exception was December 2007, which saw 1.9% fewer requests than December 2006. On an annual basis, each year’s total saw double-digit growth over the previous year beginning in 2006.

NICS data mirror the estimated sales data from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, which also show double-digit growth beginning in 2006. (Not all background checks result in one gun being purchased.)

The chart below shows that after gun sales attained record growth in 2006, violent crime rates began to fall in 2007. As gun sales continued to register records each following year, violent crime rates decreased at an accelerating rate.







Consider this; the decreases in crime have continued since the recession/depression started. This kicks another liberal narrative in the teeth; that crime increases in bad economic times.

In reality, this has been studied many times, I wrote college papers about it in the 80’s. The consensus is this, more guns=less crime.

Now, let’s take a look at the second country, the UK. The British have been subjected to increasingly restrictive gun laws since after WW I. I’ll be quoting an excellent article by Thomas Sowell, written in 2002.

Nor was gun control in England a response to any firearms murder crisis. Over a period of three years near the end of the 19th century, “there were only 59 fatalities from handguns in a population of nearly 30 million people,” according to Professor Malcolm. “Of these, 19 were accidents, 35 were suicides and only three were homicides — an average of one a year.”

The rise of the interventionist state in early 20th century England included efforts to restrict ownership of guns. After the First World War, gun control laws began restricting the possession of firearms. Then, after the Second World War, these restrictions grew more severe, eventually disarming the civilian population of England — or at least the law-abiding part of it.
It was during this period of severe restrictions on owning firearms that crime rates in general, and the murder rate in particular, began to rise in England. “As the number of legal firearms have dwindled, the numbers of armed crimes have risen,” Professor Malcolm points out.
In 1954, there were only a dozen armed robberies in London but, by the 1990s, there were more than a hundred times as many. In England, as in the United States, drastic crackdowns on gun ownership by law-abiding citizens were accompanied by ever greater leniency to criminals. In both countries, this turned out to be a formula for disaster.
While England has not yet reached the American level of murders, it has already surpassed the United States in rates of robbery and burglary. Moreover, in recent years the murder rate in England has been going up under still more severe gun control laws, while the murder rate in the United States has been going down as more and more states have allowed private citizens to carry concealed weapons — and have begun locking up more criminals.
In both countries, facts have no effect whatever on the dogmas of gun control zealots. The fact that most guns used to murder people in England were not legally purchased has no effect on their faith in gun control laws there, any more than faith in such laws here is affected by the fact that the gun used by the recent Beltway snipers was not purchased legally either.

I think Sowell’s last paragraph sums it up best. Facts have absolutely nothing to do with the left’s position on gun control. To show the actual intent, I think a quote by Thomas Jefferson has the answer:

“When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”

As a government grows more powerful, it is natural that said government would infringe upon the rights of its citizens. An armed populace complicates and thwarts that acquisition of power. Therefore, there government will seek to disarm the populace, rendering them impotent to fight the government’s theft of their freedoms.

We need the government to fear us. If they do not fear us, they will take whatever they can, until they are stopped. With history as our guide, we know this to be true.


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Kujo

06/06/10 10:29 AM

#322468 RE: Tuff-Stuff #322429

Who's disaster is this? I can't hear you!!!!!!!!!!

from YAZOO http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_B/threadview?m=te&bn=26496&tid=160486&mid=160486&tof=8&frt=1#160486

"Deep water Horizon rig
When an oil rig has a spill it is indeed the Federal Govts responsibility to come to the rescue, it's not only national crisis but, an international one as well.
Obama took 8 days to acknowledge the spill publicly
Obama and Ken Salazar's first pledge as secretary of the interior
made a pledge with BP...In a January 29, 2009 press release concerning MMS (mineral management service) Salazar said "President Obama's and my goal is to restore the public's trust, to enact meaningful reform...to uphold the law, and to ensure that all of us -- career public servants and political appointees -- do our jobs with the highest level of integrity."

Three months later, Secretary Salazar allowed the MMS to approve -- with no environmental review -- the BP drilling operation that exploded on April 20, 2010, killing 11 workers...

BP submitted its drilling plan to the MMS on March 10, 2009. Rather than subject the plan to a detailed environmental review before approving it as required by the National Environmental Policy Act, the agency declared the plan to be "categorically excluded" from environmental analysis because it posed virtually no chance of harming the environment.

Obama knew that in 2006, while Salazar was in the Colorado Senate, he fought to get increased oil and gas leases in the Gulf Coast region, by sponsoring the Gulf of Mexico Energy Security Act of 2006.

Salazar personally intervened to get an exemption for Deepwater Horizon, and "filed a special motion asking the court to lift the injunction, and he cited the BP drilling several times by name in the request."

So now people are saying that Deepwater Horizen is Obama's Katrina which is really unfair to George Bush because he could not have prevented Hurricane Katrina, like Obama could and should have prevented the Deepwater Horizon disaster, by enforcing existing environmental law.

obama you play a far dirtier game of politics with American lives, than has ever been played in recent history...

Hurricane season is at hand. It brings the horrifying possibility of wind-whipped, oil-soaked waves and water spinning ashore and coating areas much farther inland. Imagine Katrina plus oil spill.

According to the experts, between 12,000 and 19,000 barrels of oil has been flowing into the Gulf each day - that's between 500,000 and 800,000 gallons - making for a total of about 30 million gallons of oil (at 800,000 gallons a day) that have spilled into the Gulf of Mexico....with a dissembling corporation, an ineffective government and an ocean surface covered by a viscous shell with the consistency of molasses and the peril of poison Lousiana is totally being destroyed... Where is our President! oh on Vacation, that's right!!

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/deep-water-horizon-oil-spill-verses-katrina/blog-336401/