With the latest meetings last week, and the new partnership that EI and MATW are sharing with the Vatican line. I would like to think that IF MATW were interested, EI would deal with MATW rather than Waterloo. One thing is certain Waterloo has UNDERperformed, on the MLB licenses for sure. I would like to see Waterloo kick it up, or MATW just take over. I have confidence in the #2 casket producer and once again another casket that Batesville can NOT sell.