Futures beginning to give ground as weight of European market hemmorrhaging not helping operation get those futures up. http://finance.yahoo.com/m2?u But the look is they are trying like hell to do a " if we keep the futures from collapsing" when people get up they won't realize Global markets were bleeding all night. To be blunt SPX futures should be at about -20 right now if futures propping were not in play.Max