You would have trouble finding what I said on any search engine, imo. Tom Cress, based on what I know, was the President of Lingenfelter and he and Peter formed the company called Revenge Designs, LLC. Peter would do the cosmetics and Tom and company would do the mechanical side, imo. They were, somehow, introduced to Carnes...I think via Kister of Fort Wayne, and the loans were started back in '06 or thereabouts. Within a short period of time, Tom dropped out of that venture. Maybe he knew something wasn't just right...I dunno for sure, but he bailed out. dog
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