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08/16/02 3:29 PM

#137 RE: augieboo #136

Liberalism and terrorism: stages of same disease
Ann Coulter
July 6, 2002


The New York Times editorial page was in a snit with the Supreme Court this week for its first ruling on the Bush administration's wartime security procedures. Despite the hysteria at the Times for the assault on "constitutional rights" by Attorney General John Ashcroft, the Supreme Court ruled for Ashcroft.

For now, at least, deportation hearings of suspected terrorists will not be open to the public. This, the Times said, was "troubling." Sadly, the Constitution does not require that national security be compromised.

Like everything liberals oppose but don't have a good argument for, all reasonable national security measures are called "unconstitutional." Whenever liberals are losing on substance, they pretend to be upset about process.

Through their enervating dialogues and endless concerns with constitutional process, liberals have made themselves incapable of feeling hate for the enemy. Refusing to take sides in this war, they busy themselves wailing about every security precaution taken by the Bush administration.

Ashcroft has been incessantly attacked on the op-ed page of the New York Times by the same columnists who are now angrily demanding to know why the Bush administration didn't imprison all Arabs before Sept. 11. He has been compared to the Taliban. (And you're not a patriot in this war until a liberal has compared you to the Taliban.)

Bill Goodman of the Center for Constitutional Rights called Attorney General John Ashcroft the Constitution's "main enemy." (As Andrew Ferguson said, evidently Osama bin Laden comes in a close second.)

Sen. Patrick Do-Nothing Leahy has complained about Ashcroft's "disappointing" failure to run all internal guideline changes past the Senate Judiciary Committee. Instead, Sen. Do-Nothing said, "we're presented with a fait accompli reflecting no congressional input whatsoever."

Ashcroft was probably worried Leahy would take as long with procedures for investigating terrorism as he is with Bush's judicial nominees. If Speedy Gonzales Leahy were required to review Justice Department guidelines, America would be an Islamic regime before Leahy got around to it.

No matter what defeatist tack liberals take, real Americans are behind our troops 100 percent, behind John Ashcroft 100 percent, behind locking up suspected terrorists 100 percent, behind surveillance of Arabs 100 percent. Liberals become indignant when you question their patriotism, but simultaneously work overtime to give terrorists a cushion for the next attack and laugh at dumb Americans who love their country and hate the enemy.

The New York Times ran a Tom Tomorrow cartoon sneering about Americans who believe with "unwavering faith in an invisible omniscient deity who favors those born in the middle of the North American land mass." This is how liberals conceive of America: an undifferentiated land mass in the middle of North America. Like all cartoons specially featured in the Times, there was nothing remotely funny about the cartoon. Its point was simply to convey all the proper prejudices of elitist liberals against ordinary Americans.

While hooting with laughter at patriotic Americans, liberals prattle on and on about the right to dissent as the true mark of patriotism and claim their unrelenting kvetching is a needed corrective to jingoism. (It's not jingoism, and the only people who use that word are fifth columnists.)

After Sept. 11, liberals are appalled by patriotism with an edge of anger because that might lead America to defend itself. True patriotism, they believe, should consist of redoubled efforts at attacking George Bush.

Movie director Robert Altman (who won the Golden Globe for best director for "Gosford Park") said, "When I see an American flag flying, it's a joke. This present government in America I just find disgusting."

Columbia professor Eric Foner said: "I'm not sure which is more frightening: the horror that engulfed New York City or the apocalyptic rhetoric emanating daily from the White House." I think I know the answer! Thousands of our fellow countrymen dying in a fiery inferno, I'm pretty sure, is "more frightening" than the rhetoric emanating from the White House.

Liberals are angrier at John Ashcroft for questioning angry Arab immigrants applying for crop-duster permits than they are about the terrorists. These people simply do not have an implacable desire to kill those who cheered the slaughter of thousands of American citizens. If you can rise above that, if you can move on from that, you weren't angry in the first place.

During World War II, George Orwell said of England's pacifists: "Since pacifists have more freedom of action in countries where traces of democracy survive, pacifism can act more effectively against democracy than for it. Objectively, the pacifist is pro-Nazi."

To paraphrase Orwell, in this war, those who cannot stay focused on fighting the enemy are objectively pro-terrorist.






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ergo sum

08/16/02 3:53 PM

#148 RE: augieboo #136

Hi Augie

http://www.anncoulter.blogspot.com/

Posted 12:18 PM by Scoobie Davis


Ann Coulter's Slander: The Title is Correct--But for the Wrong Reasons. by Scoobie Davis


A few weeks ago, I heard that Ann Coulter had written a book that would soon be released titled Slander: Liberal Lies about the American Right. I was incredulous when I heard that the premise of the book was that the incivility and dishonesty in contemporary American political discourse was entirely the fault of the political left. I thought this was especially the case because I was familiar with Coulter's writings. Spinsanity did an informative analysis of Coulter's scurrilities. During the Election 2000 aftermath, I was particularly incensed by Coulter's libel that "Jesse Jackson is presiding over rioting in the streets" (Jackson's demonstrations were peaceful and legal; it was GOP operatives who rioted). I also know that Coulter's columns appear on the web site of two Scaife-funded ideologues, David Horowitz and Joseph Farah. This is especially ironic because a quick search on Farah's WorldNetDaily web site yields an interesting assortment of articles that include Scaife's paranoid conspiracies such as the Vince Foster death theories and the infamous "Clinton body count." Lest anyone misunderstand, Coulter has every right to write for WorldNetDaily; my point is that it is ironic for a WorldNetDaily columnist to complain about the poisoning of the well of public discourse by the left.


So I obtained a review copy of Slander though a friend in the mainstream media. I received it last week and began to research Coulter's claims (I'm still researching them). It didn't take long to find out that I was correctly told about the premise of the book--on page one, Coulter draws an unambiguous conclusion about the decline in political discourse: "It's all liberals' fault." However, when I sampled Slander's first few pages (which address the War on Terror), I found that Coulter's own words devastatingly refute this conclusion; Coulter engages in the name-calling, fabrications, and character assassination that she maintains is the exclusive realm of liberals.


Before I go on, let me first say that I enjoyed Slander. Although the book is libelous, nasty, and self-contradictory to the point of being burlesque, I found it an enjoyable read. However, the book entertained me book for reasons Coulter didn't intend. Slander has an amusing blend of bile, conspiratorial thinking, and straight camp (e.g., Coulter's hilariously gushing 3-page paean to Phyllis Schlafly). I found Slander fun to read for the same reasons I enjoy reading Jack Chick comic tracts (on that subject, I highly recommend Robert Fowler's book The World of Chick?). The only concern I have is that there are people out there who will believe Coulter's disinformation.


Early in the book I checked the Coulter's citations and I found something odd. On page five alone, for two columns Coulter cites, the information in the sources of Coulter's citations did not correspond to their portrayal in the book. I was surprised that I was able to discover multiple examples of intellectual dishonesty so early in the book.


The Lies


Regarding the War On Terror, on page 5 and 6, Coulter makes the accusations that "n lieu of a military response against terrorists abroad and security precautions at home, liberals wanted to get the whole thing over with and just throw conservatives in jail" and "[l]iberals hate America, they hate ‘flag-wavers,' they hate abortion opponents, they hate all religions except Islam (post 9/11). Even Islamic terrorists don't hate America like liberals do."


Two of the sources Coulter uses to arrive at these scurrilous conclusions are New York Times columns by Frank Rich and Bruce Ackerman. On page 5, Coulter writes, "New York Times columnist Frank Rich demanded that [Attorney General] Ashcroft stop monkeying around with Muslim terrorists and concentrate on anti-abortion extremists."


REALITY: I checked the column Coulter cited and found that nowhere in the column does Rich even remotely suggest that Ashcroft curtail efforts against Islamic terrorists. In fact, I checked every post-9/11 Times column by Rich and found that Rich has not made any such demands of Ashcroft. This is one of Coulter's lies that I e-mailed to Alan Colmes who interviewed Coulter last night (6/25/02) on Fox News's Hannity & Colmes show. Colmes confronted Coulter with this. Coulter's response: "that is an accurate paraphrase..." (For a transcript of Coulter and Colmes's exchange, check the addendum at the bottom of this post).

Also on page 5, Coulter writes: "Yale law professor Bruce Ackerman recommended dropping the war against global terrorism (‘declare war at the first at the first decent opportunity'!) and instead concentrate on ‘home-grown extremists.'"


REALITY: In the column Coulter cited, Ackerman does not advocate concentrating on domestic terrorists (as opposed to foreign-born terrorists, who are the focus of the column). In fact, Ackerman only mentions "home-grown extremists" in passing ("And I do not deny that other attacks may well occur -- perhaps committed by home-grown extremists.")


These distortions of New York Times columns by Coulter are all the more incredible because listed in the Acknowledgements section, in her list of "long-suffering friends who give me ideas and editing advice, which I habitually ignore," Coulter includes Frank Bruni, New York Times writer. It made me wonder: why didn't Bruni catch the way


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Zeev Hed

08/17/02 10:56 AM

#153 RE: augieboo #136

Augie, well, lets discuss a preemptive strike on Iraq. About twenty years ago, Saddam kept saying quite openly and on every occasion afforded him, that he is dedicated to destroy Israel including the use of Nuclear weapons to do that. He thus embarked on a major Nuclear weapon program. The Israeli, took his speeches seriously, ands since Iraq was (and still is) at war with Israel (they never even signed an armistice agreement, if memory serves), Israel took a preemptive approach to the "clear and present danger" to its survival, and took out the nuclear facilities. Israel was of course condemned by the whole world, East and west and all colors in between (including by our President at the Time, Reagan). Now we are standing at a similar cross road, our intelligence is saying that the mad man is once more engaged in development of WMD, and some even claim he has a massed a small arsenal of fission bomb and enough U235 to make a large quantity of such bombs. So, lets do what we condemned ourselves 20 years ago. Where is the rational?

Not only, we should abide by the same rule we imposed on Israel at the time, but really, the threat Israel faced was "clear and real" (Saddam own daily chant that he intends to nuke them), but Saddam has yet to issue a single proclamation that he intends to use WMD on the US (the man is a megalomaniac, but not stupid). What excuse do we have to start such a conflagration?

More importantly, we must keep in mind that if we unilaterally open a campaign against Saddam, we are going to set an international precedence, a very dangerous one. One can make a very strong argument that Israel's bombing of Iraq's nuclear facility (a truly surgical strike with minimal casualties, yet complete eradication of the threat for a solid twenty years), was justified under the doctrine of preemptive defensive strike. As fas as I can see, the only international law we can operate under is the doctrine of "preemptive defensive attack". It is quite a murky Doctrine, and requires a heavy burden of proof that a clear and present danger exists. In the absence of even a single oral or written threat to our land by Saddam, what will our excuse be?

If we do engage in such a preemptive strike, what will prevent China, sometime in the next ten to twenty years to use nuclear blackmail on Taiwan, or on India, or even on Russia, for a perceived danger to its national security? For that matter, Iran may very well use the precedence set by us in nuking the "threats" it sees in Israel. You got to understand the logic. , Israel never vowed to eradicate Iran, but right now, Iran's leaders keep proclaiming their support for the utter destruction of Israel, that puts Iran in danger of an Israeli retaliation, and thus Iran feels "unsafe" and threatened by Israel, and would be justified, under such a new preemptive doctrine, set by us, to attack Israel (strange logic, right?).

We must make sure, that an attack on Iraq will not create international precedents to aggression, and thus the burden of proof must be not only enormous, and open to international scrutiny.

A much better policy, which would cost much less than a military offensive, would be to "buy" influence within Iraq. Other strategies, similar to those used by Reagan to bring down the "evil empire" should be tried first as well. I am sure that many options for a regime change, including keeping Saddam within his cage, until he dies naturally, will be more effective than creating a dangerous international precedence, lowering the threshold for open aggression against an adversary. Frankly, the current sabre rattling looks too much like a political ploy used by despots the world over for thousands of years, you got internal domestic problems? Find a scapegoats, and divert attention from your insoluble internal problems to that scape goat. The timing with the coming congressional election stinks as well.

Zeev