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tykundegex

11/19/09 5:02 AM

#11906 RE: Jagman #11905

JBI believes that permits will not take nearly that long.

Jagman said: "I'd guess a minimum of a year before operations start even with a small operation like this one"

I think they have a very solid idea of what it will take. Recall that his new mgmt team has extensive experience with setting up industrial operations via a franchise model (i.e. all the complications of getting established in multiple geographies). Pak-It Canada will soon be operational too!

I received an e-mail from JB 2 days ago.

Question: What is the estimated timeline for franchise applications & grants,and receiving of the processors themselves?

Answer: "Full roll out first Q 2010. We are already in third party validation and testing. We retained a state-certified chemical analysis company that is providing engineering analytics and results for chemical, mechanical and environmental data. They are doing extensive analysis,material balances with all the variables present in many plastics, feedstock and output analysis, safety systems and permitting. This data and documentation will allow us to deploy these processors quickly. It is easy to get our one large processor up and in production however that will not help us get these machines running in volume in various states and countries where we need varying documentation."


So the delay (hardly) of getting the big P2O up and running is intentional -- they don't want to have to do it twice. It shows again that JBI is intent on moving forward on the larger-scale, and not concerned with proving anything to anyone by demonstrating "quick wins".

It will be covered in more detail on the CC.

S.
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GWMAN

11/19/09 6:47 AM

#11911 RE: Jagman #11905

You should not even be discussing housing permitting with regard to P20, as housing does not emit or have the potential to emit anything during operation.


Well-established industrial plants are not the same either, because it is already known what they will emit if built to specs.

I look at our P20 as more similar to new emission control devices. In turn, I would bet my house that no fed or state environmental agency would certify our P2O process until one is actually built and an approved 3rd party had done the analysis and documented everything from internal pressure, heat production, output, gas emissions, etc.
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BRIG_88

11/19/09 8:33 AM

#11917 RE: Jagman #11905

You don't have a clue and your year time frame is a PFA number...pulled from air....it isn't going to take a year....so unless you're an expert in the field i suggest you refrain from posting estimates on permit time frames.