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Longterm6

11/17/09 1:37 PM

#3846 RE: The Cheap Investor #3845

It all comes down to economies of scale. This type of business needs volume. There have been substantial 1 time costs associated with the increase in product being sold. Once they are done with these crucial infrastructure projects; I would hope as volume increases the margin would follow suit.

Hopefully they will not be needing anymore $30k+ computer systems. I hope most of the licensing and taxes for October were mostly licensing.
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kachingpdx

11/17/09 1:52 PM

#3850 RE: The Cheap Investor #3845

I have been watching another pink that traded at sixty cents yesterday with zero sales and revs. Their O/S is 94 mil and Float is 73 mil. vs the XPGH O/S of 64 mil and around 25 mil float. Seems kind of crazy to me.

I did read somewhere that at this time Biofuels are out of favor with investors. Wish I would have saved the article. Anyone else know what the sentiment is for biofuels right now?

I also agree with Makecents post #3845. The cost of sales is high because XPGH isn't making its own fuel and sub contractors look to be taking big share of sales revs. If Parsons can pull off the Gen X Energy deal that would help XPGH keep some of it profit.

It's probably going to cost a few bucks to get listed on OTC. So, these one time start-up of costs look to be far from being over.

Still, XPGH is moving in a positive direction and agree with others this stock is here to stay. I too have been adding shares while its been here at this price.
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Argonath

11/17/09 5:03 PM

#3866 RE: The Cheap Investor #3845

In this market, and this economy, old paradigms like this are no longer valid.

What is the standard PE for a stock when you do research? You look for the baseline of a P/E of 20. If its below, and all other fundamentals look good, then there is a good chance of growth.

If its over 20... with the same fundamentals, then there is a lesser chance of making a decent profit.

Changing fundamentals of course change the scope, but still, a P/E of 20 is the baseline.

Guess what?

The current P/E average for all stocks on the S&P is...

120 :O

Thats NOT basing your buying on fundamentals, growth, sales etc... that is PURE speculation of the BUBBLE nature.

Who in the their RIGHT MINDS would buy AIG or C? But if they had at the low they would have quadrupled their coin.

Nearly all trading is being done by the Big 6 brokers, and a GOOD 60-75% is done by GS's neat little computer matrix where they can SEE trades microseconds before they hit the NYSE and throw in trades accordingly.

(Thats why that Russian who STOLE GS's program was such a big deal earlier this year)

Retail is STILL on the sidelines... because NO ONE SMART wants to start getting in when GS and the PPT can steal your money through manipulation in a second.

Personally, I think 'green' is a HUGE scam. Its meant to destroy the middle class, to bring ALL industry and assets under the 9 banks set to be around after the others crash, and Real Estate folds, and its simply a govt and banking way of a money grab.

China and India BOTH just pulled out of the Copenhagen summit. Any FOOL nation who signs those accords are simply slitting their own wrists.