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Zeev Hed

09/21/04 12:05 PM

#67625 RE: harrypothead #67623

Get 40 votes for it, I see no reason to boot Yayaa, though he may want to stop his spamming.
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swampcracker

09/21/04 12:10 PM

#67626 RE: harrypothead #67623

You've got my vote.

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OrangeFluffyCat

09/21/04 12:13 PM

#67628 RE: harrypothead #67623

Edit: I logged out to see how bad a mess he's making. Par for the course -- in virtually a 24 hour period 61 out of 100 posts were his meaningless one - liners. So far today, that's been boosted to 67 out of 150 (tune in later for more mess).

Clearly when someone can dominate more than half a page, or even a major percentage, page after page, day after day, week after week, never saying anything, and it =s "I see no reason to boot," no one ever will get booted.
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I'll vote for it, but if it takes 40 votes, it will probably never happen -- and with it being said "I see no reason to boot" clearly no one ever will get booted. The criteria is waaaaaaaay too low. And the number who have membermarked but don't actually use the board boosts the needed number to kick too high to ever happen. All in all, it's only theoretical that someone can be booted. I stuck him on ignore long ago. These chronic one line nothingness posters are never worth reading and take up too much space, causing you have to sort through 60% garbage to get to any real posts.

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Lockdown rankles unit bound for Iraq

Discipline problems, low morale plague 178th

By THOMAS E. RICKS

The Washington Post


FORT DIX, N.J. -- The 635 soldiers of a battalion of the South Carolina National Guard scheduled to depart today for a year or more in Iraq have spent their off-duty hours under a disciplinary lockdown in their barracks for the last two weeks.

The trouble began Labor Day weekend, when 13 members of the 1st Battalion of the 178th Field Artillery Regiment went AWOL, mainly to see their families again before shipping out. Then there was an ugly confrontation between members of the battalion's Alpha and Charlie batteries -- the term artillery units use instead of "companies" -- that threatened to turn into a brawl involving three dozen soldiers, and required the base police to intervene.

That prompted a barracks inspection that uncovered alcohol, resulting in the lockdown that kept soldiers in their rooms except for drills, barred even from stepping outside for a smoke, a restriction that continued with some exceptions until today's scheduled deployment.

The battalion's rough-and-tumble experience at a base just off the New Jersey Turnpike reflects many of the biggest challenges, strains and stresses confronting the Guard and Reserve soldiers increasingly relied on to fight a war 7,000 miles away.

This particular Guard unit was put on an accelerated training schedule -- giving the soldiers about 36 hours of leave over the past two months -- because the Army needs to get fresh troops to Iraq and there are not enough active-duty or "regular" troops to go around.

Preparation has been especially intense because the Army is short-handed on military police units, so these artillerymen are being quickly re-trained to provide desperately needed security for convoys. And in order to fully man the unit, scores of soldiers were pulled in from different Guard outfits, some voluntarily, some on orders.

As members of the unit -- drawn mainly from South Carolina's coastal Lowcountry -- looked toward their tour, some said they were angry, or reluctant to go, or both. Many more are bone-tired. Overall, some of them fear, the unit lacks strong cohesion -- the glue that holds units together in combat.

"Our morale isn't high enough for us to be away for 18 months," said Pfc. Joshua Garman, 20, who, in civilian life, works in a National Guard recruiting office. "I think a lot of guys will break down in Iraq."

Asked if he was happy that he volunteered for the deployment, Garman said, "Negative. No time off? I definitely would not have volunteered."

A series of separate high-level decisions at the Pentagon has come together to make life tough for soldiers and commanders in this battalion and others.

The decisions include the Bush administration's reluctance to sharply increase the size of the U.S. Army. Instead, the Pentagon is relying on the National Guard and Reserves, which provide 40 percent of the 140,000 U.S. troops in Iraq. Also, the top brass has concluded that more military police are needed as security deteriorates in Iraq and the violent insurgency flares in ways that were not predicted by Pentagon planners.

These soldiers will be based in northern Kuwait and will escort supply convoys into Iraq. That's some of the toughest duty on this mission, with every trip through the hot desert bringing the possibility of being hit by roadside bombs, rocket-propelled grenades and sniper fire.

The drilling to prepare this artillery unit for that new role has been intense. Except for a brief spell during Labor Day weekend, soldiers have been confined to post and prevented from wearing civilian clothes when off duty. The lockdown was loosened to allow soldiers out of the barracks in off hours to go to the PX, the gym and a few other places, if they sign out and move in groups.

"There's a federal prison at Fort Dix, and a lot of us feel the people in there have more rights than we do," said Spec. Michael Chapman, 31, a construction worker from near Greenville, S.C.

Some complaints heard during interviews with the soldiers here last week centered on long hours and the disciplinary measures -- both of which the battalion commander, Lt. Col. Van McCarty, said were necessary to get the unit into shape before combat.

Sgt. Kelvin Richardson, 38, a machinist from Summerville, S.C., volunteered for this mission but says he now wishes he had not and has misgivings about the unit's readiness.

Richardson is a veteran of the 1991 Persian Gulf War, in which he served with the 1st Cavalry Division, an active-duty "regular" unit. This battalion "doesn't come close" to that division, he said. "Active-duty, they take care of the soldiers."

Pfc. Kevin Archbald, 20, a construction worker from Fort Mill, S.C., who was transferred from another South Carolina Guard unit, also worries about his cobbled-together outfit's cohesion.

"My last unit, we had a lot of people who knew each other. We were pretty close." He said he does not feel that in the 178th. Here, he said, "I think there's just a lot of frustration."




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Dances-W-waves

09/21/04 12:29 PM

#67633 RE: harrypothead #67623

Use the ignore button, and get over it.

lol

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rahrah

09/21/04 2:12 PM

#67667 RE: harrypothead #67623

I agree---GIVE YAYAA THE BOOT
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extelecom

09/21/04 9:10 PM

#67728 RE: harrypothead #67623

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