Replies to post #3258 on Xynergy Corporation (XYNH)

[sorkasaur]

Deadheded, I defer to you on this one:

Please explain to Earnest DD the distinct possibility of breaking water down to 'above unity'.

Physics is not my field so anyone here who has a working knowledge of it, let me preempt the criticism of my description.

The second law of thermodynamics in reference to using water as fuel has always proven that it takes more energy to get the hydrogen out than it will produce, the holy grail has always been to overcome that. A positive energy flow from 'breaking water' is refered to as being above unity.

This from a friend with a science background:

NASA generated a report on this subject in 1977. It is not a new concept, but it may well be a concept whose time has come. http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19770016170_1977016170.pdf

Assuming the technology is solid, success will be a function of management, marketing and business strategy. As you are probably aware, the target market for this hydrogen/gasoline hybrid technology is around $1 trillion world-wide in the retrofit segment. My guess is that it will not take off in the new car market - which seems to me more likely to go pure hydrogen. But, strategically, the hydrogen/gasoline hybrid technology may pave the way for the introduction of pure hydrogen and hydrogen fuel cells.

I am particularly interested in Xynergy and hydrogenetics' over-unity claims and am looking forward to hearing from them on that too.

[Deadheded]

First off XYNH has nothing to do with a new law of thermodynamics. That was done long before that by quantum mechanics.

"The theory of growing disorder, or "increasing entropy," is called the second law of thermodynamics. The second law of thermodynamics is statistical. That means it won't work unless there are many entities in a given situation to apply it to. Generally speaking, individual subatomic particles are conceived as such conceptually isolated, short-lived entities that the second law of thermodynamics does not apply to them."

Now here is how it works with out all the confusion.

You make a capacitor with two metal plates and use water as the insulator. You then charge your capacitor on a 50% duty cycle through inductor coils. The capacitor is charged with very high volts and very low amps. You charge the capacitor to over charge, which can be done several times a second. When the capacitor goes to over charge there is a catastrophic failure of the insulation medium. The charging is stopped for a micro second and the insulation medium stabilizes, but not before it has released a lot of H and O. The charging process starts over again.

I have left out a couple of small details. This is not over unity. There is never more energy and matter after the process then there was before the process. This a simply a very efficient way to convert electrical and heat energy.

You say that no one has duplicated Stan Meyers process, I say bull. I have a circuit sitting next to me that worked great. I built a simple one just to see if it worked and it did a great job. It put out more gas than any of HHO gens my friend and I built for cars. If I can do it with wires, a battery and a small motor tacked down to a wooden board I am sure others can reproduce it and have.

Many are using a pulse generator but I did not get that high tech as I just wanted a proof of concept not something that I could use over and over again.