clay and sol, i try to restrain my sarcasm, i don't mean to offend any, certainly not interested enough to argue with believers. wasn't burned by any eeso-related ceos, haven't owned a share in one. got lured to the boards by someone pumping dow-eeso buyout (bought dow at 6), been entertained and educated watching the cycles around here ever since. may trade this when board gets silly like the others. good luck to you all.