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marich

08/07/09 5:20 PM

#37361 RE: EarnestDD #37356

I strongly suspect that Dr. Singh just might have some thoughts on viable feedstocks and worthwhile technology breakthroughs...in other words ways to make biofuels feasible in different markets around the world. Too bad we probably won't be able to entice him to debate with you in this forum.
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Durkkdiggler

08/07/09 6:02 PM

#37370 RE: EarnestDD #37356

You posted:

So please tell me what low-cost, non-food feedstocks are readily available?

I posted :

Actually there are plenty and quite poisonous. Its on the website.

You posted:
Sorry ... no specific feedstock mentioned on the Zenergy website.

Nice try though.
jmo


Too answer your question, on the website there is a product called: sorghum

This is from the website:
Ethanol and other chemicals produced by using sugarcane, sorghum and bio-waste as the raw materials.

there are many species of sorghum:
* Sorghum almum
* Sorghum amplum
* Sorghum angustum
* Sorghum arundinaceum
* Sorghum bicolor (primary cultivated species)
* Sorghum brachypodum
* Sorghum bulbosum
* Sorghum burmahicum
* Sorghum controversum
* Sorghum drummondii
* Sorghum ecarinatum
* Sorghum exstans
* Sorghum grande
* Sorghum halepense
* Sorghum interjectum
* Sorghum intrans
* Sorghum laxiflorum
* Sorghum leiocladum
* Sorghum macrospermum
* Sorghum matarankense
* Sorghum miliaceum
* Sorghum nigrum
* Sorghum nitidum
* Sorghum plumosum
* Sorghum propinquum
* Sorghum purpureosericeum
* Sorghum stipoideum
* Sorghum timorense
* Sorghum trichocladum
* Sorghum versicolor
* Sorghum virgatum
* Sorghum vulgare

Sorghum species are both edible and poisonous (depending on which): Horse farmers go the extra mile to get rid of this plant.

symptoms:
urinary incontinence and dribbling of urine are common in both mares and males, predisposing the horse to cystitis in the prolonged presence of clinical signs and urine stasis. In mares, periodic opening and closing of the vulva occurs as well. Urinary irritation may contribute to the appearance that mares are in estrus. Horses develop posterior ataxia and incoordination after grazing for several days on rapidly growing Sorghum forages. Forced exercise may cause affected horses to stumble or drop the ground momentarily.

http://cal.vet.upenn.edu/projects/poison/plants/ppsorgh.htm

From wikipedia:
Some species of sorghum can contain levels of hydrogen cyanide, hordenine and nitrates lethal to grazing animals in the early stages of the plant's growth. Stressed plants, even at later stages of growth, can also contain toxic levels of cyanide.

Also from Wkipedia:

In India, and other places, Sweet Sorghum stalks are used for producing bio-fuel by squeezing the juice and then fermenting into ethanol. Texas A&M University in the United States is currently running trials to produce the best varieties for ethanol production from sorghum leaves and stalks in the USA.

So you have the answer to your question:

So please tell me what low-cost, non-food feedstocks are readily available?

I can continue but I think I gave you the tools to research more.

If you need anything else answered, I am willing to help

Diggler