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basserdan

09/10/04 8:20 PM

#294027 RE: chelsea #294025

Good luck going to Atlanta. If this hurricane does indeed stay in the direction toward us, It will take you forever to get to Atlanta. Reason being Dan is Everyone else may be going in the same direction as you because no hotels available in FLorida that are in a more supplying. Bruce take caresafety zone! I wish you and all the folks here Z turnips well. Thanks for the continued info that you and ZZ and rest of folks are supplying! Best of luck to you!
Beachlov
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Hi Beachlov
The traffic sure doesn't look bad tonight, does it.....? <g>

Thanks to SI's EnergyPlay on the hurricane board.

Evacuation route planning - the link at the bottom takes you to a Florida Dept. OF Transportation site that has traffic counters on strategic major road. Click on the yellow dot which have traffic counts per hour and average speed.
You can see what's crowded, what's open, and pick a better route. Note carefully north bound, south bound and EAST/WEST, especially up around I-10.

For Interstates and the turnpike, 1800 cars per hour works fine. Over 2500 to 2800 cars per hour gets a little slower, and 3000 -3400 cars per hours will tend to slow under 40 mph or stop.

http://www3.dot.state.fl.us/trafficinformation/


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otraque

09/10/04 10:18 PM

#294030 RE: chelsea #294025

<<Wonder where the folks from the Keys are going to evacuate to???? This is going to be A huge problem unless Ivan moves away from our state which i am still hopeful but time is running out to make a decision one way or the other.>. i know in 1998 with Hurricane Georges, my relatives in Key Colony on hitting mainland Florida simply just kept driving until they booked in at someplace near Atlanta.
On returning to their house built on large piers( height 10-feet i think) they decided Key Colony can handle high level category 2 with no catastrophic damage---it was the trees and the houseboats that got ruined.
But any chance a high level category 3 crossing the Keys they had grave doubts about Keys being up to it.
So so much depends at what level IVAN departs Cuba.
That latest computer track puts southern Keys close enough to eye of Ivan that if it were clearly a category 3 then i would not want to be in the Keys for sure.
Hurricanes that run their eye lengthwise over Hispaniola and Cuba get the fury taken out of them but if this Ivan keeps it speed anf just whips over Jamaica and cuts fast across the width of Cuba there is no telling what force this will be coming away from Cuba.
The last Hurricane the made a direct hit on Grenada was Hurricane Hazel( which would be 50 years ago as of the coming of October 5) if Ivan follows the staying power of Hazel; it will not weaken much on crossing Cuba.
Hazel cross howver Grenada the went over Haiti(killing well over a 1,000 people) and picked speed and torn apart the Bahamas and then a aircraft measured it's sustained winds at 150mph with a forward speed of 30mph! just befor hitting Carolinas , fell briefly to tropical storm but as it crossed land it some how surged again to category 3 driving its fury all the way to Toronto Canada where it killed over 100 people from its immense rains and floods caused.
Now that was the last hurricane to hit Grenada before Ivan.
If Ivan proves to high the staying power of Hazel, it will be a Hurricane's name that will never be forgotten like Andrew , Hugo, Camille, Frederic, Hazel and such.
For Hurricanes historians here are the severest listed Hurricanes since 1900 involving U.S,(thus excluding various) monsters such as Mitch and Gilbert)
http://www.able2know.com/forums/about31343.html
<Aug. 28, Savannah, Ga., Charleston, S.C., Sea Islands, S.C.: at least 1,000 died.
1900
Sept. 8, Galveston, Tex.: an estimated 6,000-8,000 died in hurricane and tidal surge. ,The "Galveston Hurricane" is considered the deadliest in U.S. history.
1909
Sept. 10-21, La. and Miss.: 350 deaths.
1915
Aug. 5-23, Galveston, Tex., and New Orleans, La.: 275 killed.
1919
Sept. 2-15, Fla. keys, La., and southern Tex.: more than 600 killed, mostly lost on ships at sea.
1926
Sept. 11-22, southeast Fla. and Ala.: 243 deaths.
1928
Sept. 6-20, Lake Okeechobee, southeast Fla.: 1,836 deaths. Second-deadliest U.S. hurricane on record.
1935
Aug. 29-Sept. 10, Fla. keys: "Labor Day Hurricane"; 408 deaths.
1938

Sept. 10-22, Long Island, N.Y., and southern New England: "New England Hurricane"; 600 deaths.
1944

Sept. 9-16, N.C. to New England: 390 deaths, 344 of which were at sea.
1947
Sept. 4-21, southeast Fla., La., Miss., Ala.: 51 killed.
1954
Aug. 25-31, N.C. to New England: "Carol" killed 60 in Long Island-New England area.

Oct. 5-18, S.C. to N.Y.: "Hazel" killed 95 in U.S.; about 400-1,000 in Haiti; 78 in Canada.
1955
Aug. 7-21, N.C. to New England: "Diane" took 184 lives and cost $8.3 million ($5.5 billion).
1957
June 25-28, southwest La. and northern Tex.: "Audrey" wiped out Cameron, La., causing 390 deaths.
1960
Aug. 29-Sept. 13, Fla. to New England: "Donna" killed 50 in the U.S.; 115 deaths in Antilles, mostly from flash floods in Puerto Rico.
1961
Sept. 3-15, Tex. coast: "Carla" devastated Tex. gulf cities, taking 46 lives.
1965
Aug. 27-Sept. 12, southern Fla. and La.: "Betsy" killed 75 people and cost more than $1.4 ($8.5) billion.
1969
Aug. 14-22, Miss., La., Ala., Va., and W. Va.: 256 killed as a result of "Camille." Damages estimated at $1.4 ($6.9) billion.
1972
June 14-23, northwest Fla. to N.Y.: "Agnes" caused 117 deaths (50 in Pa.). Damages estimated at over $2.1 ($8.6) billion. Still the worst natural disaster ever in Pa.
1979 (edit--i have many photos of the floods from Agnes--incredible!-wl)

Aug. 25-Sept. 7, Caribbean to New England: "David" caused five U.S. deaths; 1,200 in the Dominican Republic.
Aug. 29-Sept. 15, Ala. and Miss.: "Frederic" devastated Mobile, Ala., and caused $2.3 ($4.9) billion in damage overall.
1980
Aug. 3-10, Caribbean to Tex. Gulf: "Allen" killed 28 in U.S.; over 200 in Caribbean.
1983
Aug. 15-21, Galveston and Houston, Tex.: "Alicia" caused 21 deaths and $2 ($3.4) billion in damages.
1985
Oct. 6-Nov. 1: "Juan" struck La. and the Southeast. Though only a category 1 hurricane, it caused severe flooding and $1.5 ($2.4) billion in damages; 63 lives were lost.
1989
Sept. 10-22, Caribbean Sea, S.C., and N.C.: "Hugo" claimed 86 lives (57 U.S. mainland). With damages estimated at over $7 ($9.7) billion, it is the second most costly U.S. hurricanes.
1991
Oct. 30-Nov. 1, Eastern Atlantic seaboard: an unnamed hurricane labeled the "perfect storm" caused extensive erosion and flooding along the Atlantic seaboard and created 39-foot waves.
1992
Aug. 22-26, Bahamas, southern Fla., and La.: Hurricane "Andrew" left 26 dead and more than 100,000 homes destroyed or damaged. With total U.S. damages estimated at $26.5 ($34.9) billion, it is the most costly hurricane in U.S. history.
1994
Nov. 8-21, Caribbean and southern Fla.: "Gordon" led to an estimated 1,122 deaths in Haiti. Eight died in Fla.
1995
Nov. 29, Fla. panhandle and Ala.: storm surge during "Opal" caused extensive damage to coastal areas. In U.S. death toll reached nine and damages $3 ($3.5) billion.
1996
Sept. 5, N.C. and Va.: "Fran" took 37 lives and caused more than $3.2 ($3.6) billion in damage.
1999
Sept. 14-18, Bahamas to New England: "Floyd" and associated flooding caused at least 57 deaths including one in the Bahamas. Hardest-hit N.C. suffered 36 "Floyd" related deaths. Damage estimated at $4.5 ($4.6) billion.
2001
June 8-15, Gulf Coast to southern New England: tropical storm "Allison" caused severe flooding, especially around Houston, where 20,000 residents were evacuated from their homes. Damage estimated at $5 billion (actual cost); 41 deaths.