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09/10/04 10:17 AM

#1613 RE: Amaunet #1605

Russia sees Georgian links to Beslan

"There are no specific facts that would suggest that these events are linked and were planned in the same center. But the results of the crisis, created by the Georgian authorities in South Ossetia and hostage taking in North Ossetia - previously one of the calmest republics in the region - bring us to think, and the politicians are obliged not to exclude this thought, that this did not happen by chance," he said as quoted by Civil.ge.

"We put this question before the Georgian leadership and it agreed with the necessity of solving the problem of terrorists using Georgian territory as a staging post and place to relax after their despicable work," Lavrov said in the interview.


When Russia accuses the Georgian authorities of purposely creating a crisis in South Ossetia and relating it to the hostage taking in North Ossetia, Russia is again accusing the United States of being behind the siege of the school as it is well recognized that the Georgian government is a puppet regime answerable to Bush.

The other facts that point to Bush’s involvement is the granting of asylum to Akhmadov who is an accomplice of Maskadov, a co-conspirator of Basayey, the most wanted man in the affair and the specifics that many of the Chechen attacks were conveniently timed to suit the agenda of the United States who is known to covertly back terrorists, Afghanistan and the AUC most readily come to mind.

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Given that Basayey is still working with Maskadov who is still working with Akhmadov who has been granted asylum by the United States Bush is likely behind the terrorist incidents in Russia the last of which killed many Russian schoolchildren

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-Am

Russia sees Georgian links to Beslan

Friday, September 10, 2004, #172 (0696)


Foreign minister calls for Tbilisi to increase cooperation in counter-terrorism
By Anna Arzanova

Admitting that there was no concrete proof to the effect, Russia's Minister of Foreign Affairs Sergei Lavrov nonetheless says it is logical to connect the recent events in South Ossetia and the Beslan hostage crisis.

In separate interviews with the radio state Voice of Russia and the Russian paper Vremya Novostei fingered Georgia for precipitating the deterioration in Georgian-Russian relations.

His sternest words for Georgia came in the interview with the Voice of Russia.

"There are no specific facts that would suggest that these events are linked and were planned in the same center. But the results of the crisis, created by the Georgian authorities in South Ossetia and hostage taking in North Ossetia - previously one of the calmest republics in the region - bring us to think, and the politicians are obliged not to exclude this thought, that this did not happen by chance," he said as quoted by Civil.ge.

In other comments reported by Tbilisi broadcaster Rustavi-2, Lavrov told the radio station, "We don't want to speak about a conspiracy, but the animals, whom I can't call human and who seized the school, were just puppets."

"Those who had planned this vandal act were ordered to cause instability in the North Caucasus," he added, reiterating the Kremlin's line that the Beslan attack was an attempt to start a larger conflict in the North Caucasus.


In the interview with Vremya Novostei, Lavrov said that when there is the threat of terrorism, the special services of the two countries should meet each other's interests.

According to the minister, there are numerous examples of terrorists penetrating European countries as well as the United States. "We put this question before the Georgian leadership and it agreed with the necessity of solving the problem of terrorists using Georgian territory as a staging post and place to relax after their despicable work," Lavrov said in the interview.

According to Lavrov, there is cooperation between the special services of Russia and Georgia but they want "this to be more effective." Lavrov believes that if the Georgian-Russian relations would have been settled as had been discussed by the presidents of the countries in February, the situation would have improved.

"But, unfortunately, these February agreements are undermined in practice by the Georgian side. We hope that the Georgian leadership will realize the lack of prospects for unilateral, armed actions in the so-called Ossetian and Abkhaz problems," he said.

"We also hope that Tbilisi will understand as well the uselessness of its policy that intends to find an external enemy in the form of Russia," Lavrov stated.

According to the minister, if the Georgian leadership stops seeing Russia as an external enemy, they will find the "hand of friendship" which Russia has offered it.

Lavrov added that Russia has put forward proposals directed at the normalization of Georgia-Russian relations, including the settlement all bilateral issues.

"At the same time, obligations in peaceful settlement of the situation in Abkhazia and South Ossetia should be delineated. The creation of such a normal atmosphere in the relations between the countries would increase the work of the special services in the fight against terrorism," Lavrov said.

In addition to this, Lavrov stated that Georgia should do this according to the decision of the Security Council of the United Nations and is also obliged to give a report to its counter-terrorism committee.



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Amaunet

09/20/04 10:55 AM

#1755 RE: Amaunet #1605

Russia Errors Help Basayev Elude Capture

There is a striking similarity between Russia’s failure to catch the one legged Basayev and Bush’s inability to capture the 6’6 bin Laden as he drags a dialysis machine through the desert. In fact bin Laden may be a dead nemesis perpetuated by the US government.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osama_dead.html

The eastern Afghanistan intelligence chief for the country's new government, Pir Baksh Bardiwal, was astounded that the Pentagon planners of the battle for Tora Bora had failed to even consider the most obvious exit routes. He said: 'The border with Pakistan was the key, but no one paid any attention to it. And there were plenty of landing areas for helicopters had the Americans acted decisively. Al-Qa'eda escaped right out from under their feet.'..."
Daily Telegraph, 23 Feb 2002

Similar to Tora Bora Russian forces have claimed to have reliable tips on Basayev's location in the past and failed to catch him.

Liberal Russian political figures have claimed the Russian government itself lacks the will to capture Basayev, keeping him around as a useful foil to justify continued fighting in Chechnya.

This same ‘lack of will’ is seen in the following excerpt.

Our response involves far more than instant retaliation and isolated strikes. Americans should not expect one battle, but a lengthy campaign, unlike any other we have ever seen. It may include dramatic strikes, visible on TV, and covert operations, secret even in success. We will starve terrorists of funding, turn them one against another, drive them from place to place, until there is no refuge or no rest. And we will pursue nations that provide aid or safe haven to terrorism. Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. (Applause.) From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime. Bush, September 2001.

A US official said that 'casting our objectives too narrowly' risked 'a premature collapse of the international effort if by some luck chance Mr bin Laden was captured'.... "
Daily Mirror 16 November 2001

The more al-Qaeda is displaced from one country to another the more the US has a pretext for military and political action against whichever country it chooses - the last thing the CIA wants at this stage is the end of al-Qaeda. But why is the US so keen to prolong the 'War Against Terrorism' in this way.....?
http://www.btinternet.com/~nlpwessex/Documents/WATcia-al-q.htm
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Considering the amount of fire that Putin has come under since the school siege I would not think it improbable that at this time Russia does capture either Basayev or one or more of his closest accomplices.

-Am

Russia Errors Help Basayev Elude Capture
Inept Russia Intelligence, Widespread Sympathy Help Chechen Rebel Shamil Basayev Avoid Capture

The Associated Press


MOSCOW Sept. 19, 2004 — He is Russia's homegrown version of Osama bin Laden, but with a trademark all his own: dramatic mass hostage-takings that have often turned to bloodbaths. Like bin Laden, Shamil Basayev is an elusive target who has evaded capture for years.


Chechnya's Deputy Interior Minister Sultan Satuyev told the Interfax news agency on Sunday that a search operation involving 1,000 personnel was under way in Chechnya's mountains after intelligence reports suggested that Basayev was in the republic. But Russian forces have claimed to have reliable tips on Basayev's location in the past and failed to catch him.

Basayev, 39, who lost a leg five years ago while fleeing Russian forces through a minefield in 1999, has been helped by the vast sympathy he enjoys from many Chechens, a people who have resisted Russian domination for centuries and are furious over widespread human rights abuses by Russian troops in the Caucasus republic, experts say.

Basayev, a top leader of the long and bloody Chechen separatist rebellion, also has benefited from incompetence in the Russian intelligence agencies and military, who have repeatedly failed to prevent terror attacks.

A letter attributed to Basayev and posted on a Web site affiliated with Chechen rebels, has claimed responsibility for a recent terror wave that in two weeks saw the taking of more than 1,200 hostages at the school, the simultaneous blowing two planes out of the sky with near simultaneous explosions, and a suicide bombing at a Moscow subway station.

There was no way to confirm the note's authenticity. Basayev alleged Russian forces had provoked the bloody end to the school siege in Beslan by storming the building. More than 330 people died nearly half of them children. The plane explosions killed 90 people; the metro attack killed nine plus the bomber.

"We regret what happened in Beslan. It's simply that the war, which (Russian President Vladimir) Putin declared on us five years ago, which has destroyed more than 40,000 Chechen children and crippled more than 5,000 of them, has gone back to where it started from," he wrote in the letter.

Basayev, born in Vedeno in southern Chechnya, is believed to have been deeply affected by the May 1995 Russian bombing of the mountain village, in which several of his family members were killed.

One of Basayev's most infamous attacks took place the following month, when he led some 200 fighters in a siege of a hospital in southern Russia and took hundreds of hostages. Russian forces stormed the building, and more than 100 civilians died. Basayev and his men escaped.

His other claimed terror attacks include this May's bombing in the Chechen capital Grozny that killed Kremlin-backed regional president Akhmad Kadyrov. He also said he helped orchestrate the October 2002 siege at a Moscow theater where some 800 people were taken hostage. At least 129 hostages died, mostly from effects of a narcotic gas Russian forces used to subdue the attackers.

After the latest attacks, Russia's Federal Security Service offered a reward of $10.3 million for information that could help "neutralize" Basayev and Aslan Maskhadov, another rebel leader.

The main challenge in capturing Basayev is widespread sympathy among the Chechen people, said independent Russian military analyst Pavel Felgenhauer.

"When (security forces) move they are reported immediately," he said, adding that women and children are part of the network of informers who long ago identified the undercover vehicles used by Russian agents.

Sergei Markov, an analyst with close ties to the Kremlin, lamented that the post-Soviet shake-up in Russia has reduced the formerly omnipotent KGB to a shadow of its former self, robbing the intelligence agency of the ability to infiltrate militant circles.

"In these conditions, the revival of the main instrument in the war on terrorism a network of agents is proceeding with great difficulty," he said. "How do you find agents among various ethnic groups? They have known each other since childhood, from the clans and the courtyards."

Russian intelligence agencies have repeatedly shown ineptitude, said Anatol Lieven, a senior associate at the Washington-based Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and author of "Chechnya: Tombstone of Russian Power."

"If you want to know why (Russian authorities) haven't captured Basayev yet, you only have to look at the incompetence with which they handled the siege" at the Moscow theater and Beslan, he said.

Intelligence failures have typified the Chechen wars, where thousands of Russian soldiers have lost their lives. "There's no mystery about this, the whole Russian state is in shambles," he said.

Lieven said Basayev may be hiding in Georgia, which shares a mountainous border with Chechnya. Russian authorities have repeatedly accused Tbilisi of allowing rebels to find shelter.

Liberal Russian political figures have claimed the Russian government itself lacks the will to capture Basayev, keeping him around as a useful foil to justify continued fighting in Chechnya.

But Lieven dismissed such talk as unfounded and said such rumors were similar to those suggesting President Bush's administration was involved in the Sept. 11 attacks.

"You can oppose these conflicts without yielding to irrational conspiracy theories," he said.

Echoing U.S. authorities who play down the fact that bin Laden remains at-large more than three years after the attacks on New York and Washington, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov sought to diminish the significance of what Basayev's capture would mean in stopping future terror attacks in Russia.

He alleged international terrorism would still be the driving force behind the violence.

"The fact that he took full responsibility of course does not mean that by liquidating the problem that exists in connection with Basayev, all the rest will disappear," Lavrov said.



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