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Amaunet

09/06/04 2:17 PM

#1584 RE: CoalTrain #1583

Almost positive

The Sunburn or Onyx is a anti-ship cruise missile. The ‘Sunburn’ has been adapted by Russia for submerged launch from submarines. This being one reason China, Russia and Iran can take out our aircraft carriers.

They are already patrolling the high seas with their subs.

Two excerpts somewhat dated, by now the Sunburn or Onyx has probably been fully incorporated, I would think.

"There are two vessels at issue," said the Stratfor analysis. "The [Chinese have] placed a new version of the Russian-designed Kilo-class submarine into service April 4, 2000," according to a brief Hong Kong newspaper report cited by the intelligence firm.

"The new Kilo is equipped with anti-ship weapons and has conducted recent drills simulating combat with carrier-type ships," the report said, quoting the Sing Tao Jih Pao newspaper, which -- in turn -- cited Chinese army sources. "It takes up to a year to qualify a new vessel and crew for duty at sea."


Russian-built 636 Kilo-class sub of the type exported to China.

"But the Chinese navy may have made a more significant breakthrough," Stratfor.com said. "It has been working for years on a variant of the larger, more powerful [Russian-designed and built] Victor III submarine. This submarine … [was] due for completion sometime in late 2000, [and] was designed to launch cruise missiles while submerged.

"That would allow the Chinese to threaten the pre-eminent American weapons system in the region: The aircraft carrier," the report said.

Sources told WorldNetDaily the subs can also be used to mine harbors and inlets around Taiwan, as well as interdict sea lanes that bring oil, supplies and goods to northeast Asia.

Also, reports said a U.S. Navy vessel was chased out of a Yellow Sea exercise area inhabited by Chinese naval vessels earlier this year. Experts said one or more of the new submarines could have been operating there as well.

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:7zRmnA2Zz0kJ:www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp%3FARTICLE_ID%....




Also, the Chinese navy's new Russian Kilo-class submarines will be armed with Club antiship cruise missiles from Russia, at least one of which can be configured to attack targets on land. In addition, Fisher says, the Sovremny destroyers the PLA acquired from Russia carry the Moskit and Yakhont cruise missiles.

http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm/include/detail/storyid/258778.html






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Amaunet

09/06/04 3:07 PM

#1586 RE: CoalTrain #1583

The ‘Sunburn’ which is a cruise missile has been adapted by Russia for submerged launch from submarines. The diesel subs can carry torpedoes, cruise missiles and mines. I don't see why not.


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However, several nations, including potential adversaries such as Iran and China, now have small but growing fleets of almost undetectable diesel-electric subs.

A hostile, seafaring nation that wants to influence world events has only to go out and buy a diesel sub, Brandhuber added. Newer models, plus older surplus ones, are being sold by Germany, France, Italy and Russia.

Just like nuclear-powered submarines, diesel subs can carry torpedoes, cruise missiles and mines. While conventional submarines must refuel during long journeys, military planners worry that such vessels can hide and wait at strategic "choke points" such as the Taiwan Strait or the Strait of Hormuz in the Middle East, attacking U.S. warships and cargo vessels.

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Amaunet

09/08/04 5:09 PM

#1602 RE: CoalTrain #1583

Russia test-launches ballistic missile

I think the Yekaterinburg submarine is Delta IV-class.

-Am

www.chinaview.cn 2004-09-08 16:52:25

MOSCOW, Sept. 8 (Xinhuanet) -- Russia's Northern Fleet test-launched two ballistic missiles on Wednesday, Russian news agencies reported.

The first missile was launched at 9:38 a.m. Moscow time (0438 GMT) from the Yekaterinburg submarine in the Barents Sea to the Kura range on the Far Eastern Kamchatka Peninsula, a Defense Ministry official was cited as saying.

"The head cone of the missile hit the target on the testing range at the appointed time," the official was quoted as saying.

The second missile was fired by the Borisoglebsk nuclear submarine from the Barents Sea at 11:38 a.m. Moscow time (0738 GMT).

It was the fourth launch of the sea-based inter-continental ballistic missiles from nuclear submarines of the Russian Navy this year. Enditem

http://news3.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-09/08/content_1957882.htm