Replies to post #4507 on The Jailhouse (JAIL)

[ziegel]

No 5 heads from me: I don't have a wife, a father and 3 brothers 2 commit to your biz, but I can let u in a few "tricks" that ggreassle and Nomodo taughtt me. Deal? As tu can voir, je suis flexible

salut, ty

[FrankNG]

Matt, have you ever signed up on ragingbull and used multiple alias's?

You say you don't dodge questions so here is your chance yo come clean

[ziegel]

See, Momos, can only "delete" the "truth" for so long! Sooner or later your head swallows so much that your pants rip open and the "REAL" you become exposed...

[FrankNG]

Matt, I expect an applogy from you and expect you to reinstate my factual post about Hartcourts Fake PHD DOC. The proof was in my post. I understand that it must be hard to admit to your mistake but I hope you will be a man about it and that you will be a better person because of it.

Phan cleared up the fraud in a shareholder letter dated Aug. 31, 2000 where he got his PHD. The evidence below is 100% proof that his PHD was obtained through a diploma mill.

"In a shareholder letter dated Aug. 31, 2000, Alan Phan said:

“In 1970, Sussex College of Technology and the University of Saigon started a joint post-graduate program in Management. It took me six years to complete and I am proud of my achievement…In any case, this subject of which University my doctoral degree is from has nothing to do with our company’s achievements or the future of our company.”"


So, let’s see. According to SEC filings from the many companies Alan Phan has been involved with, his doctorate in management came from Penn State, or was that a Ph.D. in Environmental Science from Sussex College of Technology?
Make sure you go to this link . LOL http://www.copenlabs.com/courses.htm

And was that B.S. (what appropriate letters!) from Penn State or Sussex?

And how long has he been leading HRCT? Since 1990? Or 1994?

THE HARTCOURT COMPANIES (HRCT) SEC 10-KSB filing for 1996:

“Dr. Phan received his academic training and degrees at Pennsylvania State University (1967), and Sussex College of Technology, Sussex England (1975).”

AMG VENTURE SERVICES INC (AVSI), SEC 10SB12B filing dated May 6, 1999

“Alan V. Phan received his academic training and degrees at Pennsylvania State University (PhD-Management), his Master of Science degree from Sussex College of Technology and his Bachelor of Science in Environmental Engineering at Pennsylvania State University and has had over 30 years of experience in business management. Dr. Phan is currently Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer of The Hartcourt Companies, Inc. (NASDAQ-OTB-BB) and its predecessor private company functioning in this capacity since 1994.”

AMERICAN VENTURE GROUP INC. (AVGI). SEC 10SB12B filing dated May 27, 1999

“Alan V. Phan received his academic training and degrees at Pennsylvania State University (PhD-Management), his Master of Science degree from Sussex College of Technology, and his Bachelor of Science in Environmental Engineering
at Pennsylvania State University and has had over 30 years of experience in business management. Dr. Phan is currently Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer of The Hartcourt Companies, Inc. (NASDAQ-OTB-BB) and its predecessor private company functioning in this capacity since 1994.”

APOLLO VENTURE GROUP INC (AVGI) SEC 10SB12B filing dated June 1, 1999

“Alan V. Phan received his academic training and degrees at Pennsylvania State University (PhD-Management), his Master of Science degree from Sussex College of Technology, and his Bachelor of Science in Environmental Engineering
at Pennsylvania State University and has had over 30 years of experience in business management. Dr. Phan is currently Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer of The Hartcourt Companies, Inc. (NASDAQ-OTB-BB) and its predecessor private company functioning in this capacity since 1994.”

THE HARTCOURT COMPANIES (HRCT) SEC SB-2 filing dated Aug. 24, 2000:

“Dr. Phan received his B.Sc. in Environmental Engineering from Pennsylvania State University, and his M.S. and Ph.D. from Sussex College of Technology in England.”

ENOVA HOLDINGS INC (EHI), SEC 10SB12B/A filing dated Oct 18, 2000

Dr. Alan V. Phan, Chairman of the Board and Director. Dr. Phan has over 30 years of experience in business management. He obtained his academic training and degrees at Pennsylvania State University and Sussex College of Technology. As Executive Vice President of Em Kay Group and Eisenberg Company, he established 11 industrial projects including real estate developments in Asia and South America. Dr. Phan has been a founder and Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer of Hartcourt since August 1990.

In a shareholder letter dated Aug. 31, 2000, Alan Phan said:

“In 1970, Sussex College of Technology and the University of Saigon started a joint post-graduate program in Management. It took me six years to complete and I am proud of my achievement…In any case, this subject of which University my doctoral degree is from has nothing to do with our company’s achievements or the future of our company.”

Indeed!

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More on Sussex College of Technology

From huffman Wed Apr 22 09:19:43 1998Subject: Here's my understanding
To: [e-mail]: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:19:43 -0700 (PDT)
Dear Mr. Eric Rotbard,
If/When it was clear to both of us that Derek didn't earn a PhD
at a bona fide school, my assumption has been that these negotiations
would likely go into a mode where you would just ignore/stall. It
appears that is now the case. So, there were a couple of loose
ends I'd like to try to clean up. First, list all the diploma mills
in Bear's book. Secondly, a note that may be of personal interest
to you and a preview copy of an update to my web page.
I collected the list of PhD scam diploma mills from Bear's book
that I mentioned to you previously. These are from his chapter 25
that I also mentioned in the same previous post. Here's some
detail Dr. Bear gives for one diploma mill, as an example.
"Sussex College of Technology, Sussex, England. Perhaps the oldest of
Britian's degree mills, Sussex is run by "Dr." Bruce Copen from his
home, south of London. At the same address, but with different
catalogs are the Brantridge Forest School and the University of the
Science of Man. Each offer "earned" degrees for which a few
correspondence are required, and "extension awards" which are the same
degrees and diplomas for no work at all. Honorary Doctorates are
offered free, but there is a $100 engraving charge. "Professor
Emeritas"[sic] status costs another $100. One flyer admits Sussex
is not "accrediated" [sic] but goes on to say that "No student who
has taken our courses and awards have to date had problems." This
statement would not be accepted by, among many others, a former
high-level state official in Colorado who lost his job when the
source of his Doctorate was discovered. Sussex continues to advertise
extensively in newspapers and magazines in the U.S. and worldwide.
In 1988, a new British law came into effect, forbidding such "schools"
to accept students who enrolled after May 1st. Sussex's solution to
this minor annoyance was to offer to back-date all applications to
April 30th, 1988 - a creative response that British law apparantly
hasn't caught up with yet."
The following list is not claimed to be complete. The nature of this
type scam would make that almost impossible. Also, it is apparantly
very common for the con artists to slightly change the name of their
"school" from time to time. They also sometimes like to try to pick
names that are very close to accredited schools. I assume that
Derek's PhD was purchased from one of these "schools", if so then,
his PhD is a fraud and in that case I wouldn't really expect to hear
from you again.List of Chapter 25 Diploma Mills that appear to be in England.
Academy College of Holy StudiesAcademy of the Science of Man
Albany Educational ServicesAvatar Episcopal University
Avatar International UniversityBrantridge Forest School
British College of Soma-TherapyBritish Collegiate InstituteBroadhurst University
California Institute of Higher LearningCentral School of Religion
City Medical Correspondence CollegeCollege of Applied Science London
College of Divine MetaphysicsCollege of Spiritual Sciences
Collegium Technologicum Sussexensis Britannia
Creative University of Southeast LondonCromwell University
Ecclesiastical University of SheffieldEpiscopal University of London
European College of Science and ManFaraday CollegeGordon Arlen College
Harley UniversityInter-State CollegeInternational Protestant Birkbest College
London College of PhysiologyLondon College of TheologyLondon Educational College
London Institute for Applied ResearchLondon School for Social Research
London Tottenham International Christian UniversityLyne College
Metropolitan CollegiateMinisterial Training CollegeMorton-Colwyn University
National Ecclesiastical UniversityNational University of Sheffield
Nebraska College of Physical MedicineNewcastle University
Northwest London UniversityObura UniversityOxford College of Applied Science
Oxford Institute for Applied ResearchSaint John Chrysostom College
School of Applied SciencesSchool of Psychology and PsychotherapyShield College
South Eastern Extension CollegeSouthern Eastern University
Sussex College of TechnologyTrinity Collegiate Institute
United Free University of EnglandUniversal Ecclesiastical University
Universitas IltiensisUniversitates SheffieldensisUniversity of London
University of CoventryUniversity of EnglandUniversity of England at Oxford
University of SheffieldUniversity of Sulgrave
University of the Old Catholic ChurchUniversity of the Science of Man
University of WinchesterWest London College of Technology
Western Orthodox UniversityWhitby Hall CollegeWordsworth Memorial University
..............................................................
I was planning on updating my web page. Here is a preview copy
that you may review. I would, of course, be very interested in any
thing in here that you believe to be false or misleading. If you
let me know I will, of course, correct it. What may be of personal
interest to you is copies of our correspondence that I plan on
making available as "BACKGROUND INFORMATION". Unless I hear
differently from you, my plan is to censore out the phone number
of your law firm, okay? I don't plan on censoring out your email
address, okay? Based on postings to the news groups from you that
I read, I assume that this is the way you want it.
..............................................................
Ph.D. Frauds

(last modified 4/22/98)
Derek Smart, author of a mediocre computer game called Battlecruiser
3000ad (BC3K), is widely known on Usenet as being the focus of the
largest and longest running flame-fest ever seen, this occurs primarily
in the comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic (c.s.i.p.g.s.) news group.
INTRODUCTION
Derek Smart has claimed to have a PhD in almost every post he's made
over the past few years. Prior to the PhD wars (8/8/97 - present),
whenever anyone had asked about details he was strangely silent. The
biggest braggart many have ever seen being silent on such occasions
seemed very "out of character". This coupled with my observation of many
months of Derek lies, lead me to suspect that Derek's PhD was a fake.
After gathering further evidence, it's believed this is now an
inescapable conclusion.
Here's some things Derek has said about his studies. He has said that he
studied only part time. He's said that he studied in the USA and England.
He's said that it was a mail order college. He's more recently said his
school is in England. He's stated it wasn't important whether his school
was accredited or not. He's said it's a renowned accredited college. He's
said it's a small tech institute. He's said he grew up in England and
moved to the USA in 1989.SUMMARY
This presentation argues that Derek's PhD is a fraud. It consists of
four firmly established facts. These facts taken together, show that his
PhD is a probable fraud. Derek has not earned a PhD at any accredited
university.FACT 1: Derek Smart's PhD dissertation is not listed anywhere.
(Almost all PhD dissertations are listed in DAI or somewhere.)
FACT 2: Derek has not provided simple information.
(Derek hasn't named his alma mater, among other things.)
FACT 3: Derek Smart has changed the story about his PhD.
(He said his dissertation was published now, he says it's not.)
FACT 4:
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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 19:35:22 -0400From: Eric Rotbard
To: Bill Huffman
CC: Derek Smart Subject: Re: Here's my understanding
Mr. Huffman,
<snip stuff to protect the privacy of others , basically Mr. Rotbard says
that I made mistakes and that I'm incorrect. This has bothered him and
Derek and made them unhappy with me. He warns that I had better not
make the changes to the web page. He points out some specific examples
of areas that he believes are fallacious.>
(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
I am still awaiting a certification from Derek's registrar. Once I
receive it, I will take appropriate action.
I found your proposed amendments offensive and fallacious. I can prove
Derek's Ph. D. any time I wish by revealing this information. I am,
however, awaiting a certification from the registrar which I will
provide to Charles Curran, Esq. and/or Whowhere (and also to annex to a
federal complaint if need be).
To say that "negotiations continued on for over a month and it seemed
that the lawyer's position just kept crumbling more and more." is also
false. We have not been negotiating for over a month. Our negotiations
were limited to the nature of proof that would be acceptable to both
parties which was agreed from close to the outset. The fact that I have
been waiting for a certification has no bearing whatsoever on the
underlying merits, and does not constitute negotiations. If you feel
that you do not want to wait for me to provide this information, that is
your choice.
Your "conclusion" that Derek received his Ph. D. from a "Ph. D. mill" is
false and defamatory.
You are also categorically incorrect by stating that the onus is on
Derek to prove his Ph. D. He doesn't have to prove anything until he
files suit. At that time, you will be held accountable for what youpost.
If your intent was to further antagonize Derek and annoy me, you have
succeeded. Your web page is defamatory as it is. If you amend it
further to include the material in your message to me, I will recommend
to Derek that we go forward and file suit.
My approach to practicing law is that a good lawyer keeps his client out
of court. This approach works when the parties are reasonable.
However, your web page as well as the history of your posts demonstrate
that you are on a personal crusade to villify Derek. I do not believe
that the courts will protect this "speech". If you continue on this
path, I do not see any alternative than litigation. If you amend your
web page, I will take it as a rejection of my attempt to resolve this
matter, and I will take appropriate action.
)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))Sincerely,
Eric Rotbard

[NoMoDo]

This is an example of how a basher who cannot form a full sentence works his "magic"

Matt writes....

So riddle me this, ty....

Why all the aliases? What driving motive could make you push this hard just to ruffle a few feathers? what is in it for you?

You will certainly be one of the topics of a new board I'm doing. Maybe if you'll grant me an interview (<g>), I'll let you out.

MB


Ty aka everyone goes to the rb board and leaves out just a few details....


By: typhoon_10
22 Jun 2002, 03:27 PM EDT Msg. 40449 of 40451
(This msg. is a reply to 40448 by fishypete.)
Found on the "clean" board -Posted by: IH Admin (Matt)
In reply to: tyfoon who wrote msg# 4505 Date: 6/22/2002 10:47:26 AM
Post # of 4544

""So riddle me this, ty....

You will certainly be one of the topics of a new board I'm doing. Maybe if you'll grant me an interview (), I'll let you out.


it only gets better.

[NoMoDo]

if you do get an interview with ty,
ask for all the voices in his head to come out. There hasnt been one like this since Cybil...

By: typhoon_10
22 Jun 2002, 08:56 PM EDT Msg. 40461 of 40462

Heard on the "Cleaned" (with BSti products) board. Lots of complaints about this guy everywere he goes! An ailing guy?.

Posted by: hurricaneJim
In reply to: NoMoDo

""momos -YOU ARE A "DISGRACE" TO ANY BOARD. Your entrance on the sceme marks the "death" of any miningful debates and exchanges between seriou posters due to your utter ignorance amd uncalled interventions.

Very soon you and your gg brother will drag also this board to its demise: SHAME ON YOU!

It only gets "WORSE


it only gets better.