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CoalTrain

08/26/04 8:39 PM

#10412 RE: Ace Hanlon #10410

The thing the Republicrats fear the most is any third party. The one party system works to well for the filthy rich and powerful.

People cower and are so afraid of voting third party it is ridiculus. If Nader started showing 7% to 10% in the polls you can be sure Kerry would do a Gary Hart pronto and some one much further to the left would replace him.

Most of the other Nations in the world have more parties than two and work through coalition governments with proportional representation. Most other Nations also saw what a mistake the war in Iraq was going to be.


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otraque

08/27/04 9:51 AM

#10418 RE: Ace Hanlon #10410

<<Michigan is the fifth state in a week where Nader has been denied ballot status by administrative or court action, following Illinois, Maryland, Missouri and Virginia. In each case, the challenges to Nader's ballot status have been brought by the Democratic Party, which is escalating its attack on the democratic rights of hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of potential Nader voters, seeking to deny them any choice other than Bush or Kerry.>. This, of course, is not democracy, the two parties basically operate like gangster gangs without guns.
This action puts Kerry is the same boat as Bush---let's kill democracy.
Regards the Central Park issue americans have become so insensate that they are too dumb to recognize the rug is being pulled from under them, freedom is dying like the old analogy of how to boil a frog.
The frog is too dumb to realize that with the temperature of the water he is in is being raised one degree a day such when he realizes he is being boiled it is too late.
This is how i see most the american public be they democrats and republicans.
Central Park has a long historic tradition for demontrations and just plain mass gatherings.
The keep of grass case and security issues the Judge gave is a pathetic excuse to slam the door on a place that never should ever be made out of bounds.
The Washington Monument Park now can now use, "it will damage the grass" issue.
And people now are so slow of wits they just say "ok.".
I can state emphatically that this order would have been challenged by many many thousands from my time, a major move of Civil Disobedience would have definitely materialized.
If such a move does not materialize now i will know the youth of america have lost their nerve on one part and on the other part become more right-wing.
As have said i am 63, i have paid my dues many times over,but because of my evaluation of youth coming up freedom will continue to die in this dying america.
Here is frightening statistic, in the 70s, in 1974 a study of reading demographics was made, and again this year , in those 30 years a complete reversal has occurred.
In 1974 the age group between 18-24 read more books than any group, now they read fewer books than any group, also they are the far more conservative now.
Sheep can not stop a move to fascism.
A good friend was visiting with me and we both concurred the great Vast Sprawling dull and easily manipulated Middle Class will not awake until they find out they have been robbed and live inside a country that has built laws to keep them in line and underfoot.
And we both concurred they will be getting what they deserve as they will have brought it upon themselves having surrendered to having
a mentality as acute as cattle being led to the slaughter house.