Replies to post #4365 on The Jailhouse (JAIL)

[jmhollen]

Matt,

Dirty launday day today, or is your PM'r just broken again..??

Per your comment: "...Yes, I have a serious problem with Hollen. Why I can't boot him out, I don't know. I think what he does/did is pure spam. It is one thing to copy/paste something every now and then. But for every single breath you breathe on this site to be spam is quite annoying. That is where my problem lies. That's also, likely, why I can't boot the guy out. Because, at least he really isn't fighting with people and it's about stocks. If I can tone it down, then I've kept the stock content rolling, but yet, killed the spam flavor..."

The highlighted portion is such an unadulterated crock of horsecrap, that I won't address it - other than to point out that with 65+/- stock boards I support with PR, News, etc., you need to go back to YOUR PERSONAL FILES and check the "..permissions.." I forwarded to you from the Managers of 5 & Under, Archies & OTCDD.

What is your "current" serious problem with me..?? I personally think it's a generational issue combined with a whole lot of ego. Although I respect what you've done in creating and managing iHub in general, I grossly resent the flippant attitude you present in many instances to long-standing members. The disrespectful familiarity coupled with personal and situational insults that you couple with your despotic pontifications toward people are becoming a iHub trademark. Many beg the question, do they have mirrors in northern Florida?!?

As we have never been introduced, and have no personal contact other than on this website, I have indicated to you in several PMs and emails that I wish to be called "John". I consider it a matter of respect towards my Dad (RIP). You are not my peer, nor my neighbor, nor my associate, nor a member of any organization I participate in that would endow you with any privileges of familiarity with me. Yet, you continue you to refer to me as Hollen - which I have repeatedly asked you not to do.

You, in my opinion, have used my surname repeatedly in direct contravention to my multiple requests, in an effort to ignore my wishes and impart an intentional level of annoyance. I, on the other hand, challenge you to find an instance where I have referred to you as "Brown", or "..Hey, Brown.." or any other such uninvited reference.

I don't know your father. I don't know you, personally. We don't belong to the Knights Templars, Audubon Society or Tallahassee Bowlers "Pin Busters" team together, so I think it would be bloody rude for me to refer to you as "Brown" - unless you specifically requested me to do so.

The problem sure isn't SPAM, because I don't SPAM. SPAM is where you take a message, i.e.: "...ACME - it's hot, hot, hot..!!! Goin' to the Moon..." YEAH - BABY.... RUNNNNNNNNNIINNNNNGGGG.....!! GET IN QUICK...." or "...Join our super hotpick email list at http://www.OoogaBoogaOmahaBigPicks.com ..", and post it to a large group of different stock boards, thereby interfering with and disrupting the discussions in progress.

You seem to agree, since the weekend "...advertisers..." and "...Bozo's from Bobz..." don't last long around here.

Consequently, what everyone else - including myself - thinks is that your floating definition of "...SPAM..." is self-righteous BS exacerbated by input from Bob who is ape**** over the issue, coupled with tripe-TOSs from those identified as being mentored by you.

How about we let the SPAM issue slide, since you obviously aren't making any progress with it - outside of your "...personal circle of iHub confidants...".

The problem sure isn't graphics...!! I'll certainly admit to the light-hearted use of graphics, which were directly aimed at pure humor in cases I felt were deserving. And, I've used them on occassion to "..needle.." some people - who I know TOS every post they see anyway. Since I perhaps pushed the envelope a little, and you found gross fault with it, I quit.

Is that not good enough for you...???

Apparently not, since you just could let go of it without some barbed little "..weening.." comment recently. That comment was disrespectful, insulting, offensive, thoughtless, and intentional, IMHO. Manners must be in dam* short supply in northern Florida, because I'd bet dollars-to-donuts you wouldn't have the poor manners or ill-judgement to talk like that in person.

I now only use graphics in my iBoxes; however, if there were a good reason to include a graphic other than a stock chart (..like a company's product, etc..) to support a stock matter - I might include one. And, in that case I wouldn't really expect to hear about it as it would be in total compliance with both the short, long and purported audio versions of the iHub TOUs.

I only recently included a "...very small graphic..." of the Beatle's "yellow sub" in my "..tag line.."; which was a 100% compliment to iHub and intended to add just enough art to make it a winner in the iHub tag line contest started by Bob Z himself. Based on your comment that you would "..prefer.." it wasn't there, I took it out.

Since that time, I've cruised around seeing animated flags, flame spewing dragons, and numerous other tag line graphics being used on the system. Since my "sub" was neither large, grossly distractive, politically questionable by the WAY FAR LEFT, or intended to convey any message other than to ad minimalistic art to a clever iHub tag line - it's going back in next Monday unless there is a NO GRAPHICS IN TAG LINES RULE published in the TOUs.

If you want to use that as excuse to satisfy the nitpicking suck-up-gnats buzzing around your hems, go ahead. Exclude my founding-week, "...PAID...", 65+/- stock board creating/supporting membership. But, at least show me the minimal respect of returning my membership fee to my credit card if you do.

Personally, I've been a bit stressed over the last year. And, in retrospect I've probably been a bit of a thorn at times. But, it was all done in fairly good humor - unlike the vindictive BS and ongoing monkeyshines everyone has had to put up with from some well-known and/or soon-to-be iHub absentees.

I've made some efforts to mellow out - only to be repeatedly sold short by you privately and in public. That, Matt, is unprofessional and grossly post-pubescent. I'd really appreciate it, at this junture, if you'd just get off my back.


John

Park your Sub at the iHub - Bub; ....the experience might just "...float your boat..." !!

[Bird of Prey]

Matt,

I'm not defending Hollen, I just don't see that he's doing anything differently than he always has. But I have noticed a change in IH management "style" over the past few months.
Straight up, in order for IH to be useful to me I want to see both alleged "touts" and alleged "bashers" posting. Neither side getting even the appearance of preferential treatment from management. If a person like Hollen is posting about stocks and isn't considered disruptive by the board moderators of the boards he's on what's the difference whether he C&P's or writes original content? You keep quoting how many posts he has had deleted... how many of those were in the last 30 days? 60 days? This year?
I wonder how much of this is Hollen being wrong and how much of this is IH trying to save face in the ongoing assault from his old nemesis here?
From over here in the cheap seats it looks like you're getting all in a bother over three posts a day.
As for how seriously everybody is being taken... look at the number of quality people that have departed or seriously reduced their contribution because they felt they weren't being taken seriously. Myself included.
Whether IH management is truly thumbing it's nose at it's long time users or not remains to be seen...but the perception that you are is growing.


The Bird of Prey

Sometimes it is not enough to avoid evil... sometimes you must avoid even the appearance of evil.