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Deadly shootout at Taliban talks


Taliban commanders were reportedly meeting to
choose a successor to Baitullah Mehsud [EPA]

A number of senior Pakistani Taliban figures have been killed and others injured
after a gun battle at a meeting in South Waziristan, sources have told Al Jazeera.

The meeting had apparently been called to choose a successor to Baitullah Mehsud,
the Taliban leader reportedly killed in a US missile attack earlier in the week.

"We can confirm that the clash took place and that would indicate a serious rift in the
Pakistani Taliban
," Al Jazeera's Kamal Hyder, reporting from the capital, Islamabad, said.

"It is also yet another indicator that Baitullah Mehsud may have been killed in that attack carried out by US drones."

Reports on Saturday said that both Hakimullah Meshud and Wali ur Rehman, two possible successors to Baitullah
Mehsud, had been killed in the shooting, but there was no independent confirmation of their deaths.

Taliban infighting

Hakimullah Mehsud served as a deputy to Baitullah Mehsud and Wali ur Rehman
was a senior commander in the umbrella Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) movement.
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In depth

Profile: Baitullah Mehsud

The US is offering a $5m reward for information leading
to the capture of Mehsud [EPA]

Baitullah Mehsud, the leader of Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan, or the Pakistani
Taliban, was once hailed by a Pakistani general as a "soldier of peace".
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2009/03/2009331171735191991

Profile: Pakistan Taliban
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2009/04/2009428174712413825

Witness: Pakistan in crisis .. 4 part video inside .. Rageh and his team had
been the last television crew inside the Red Mosque before the siege began in July
2007 .. on that subject .. plus 4 other 4 parts on other topics .. WOW! videos ..


http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/witness/2009/05/20095268590483906

Inside Story: Pakistan's military
Reminder: The Pakistani military is the most important institution in the country. .. 1 .. 1 part video .. :)
http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/insidestory/2009/05/2009514855248795

Riz Khan: The battle for the soul of Pakistan
When Pakistan was founded in 1947, it was dubbed "the Islamic state experiment".


In Urdu, Pakistan means "land of the pure".

Now, more than 60 years later, the country is locked in a battle to define
what brand of Islam it will follow
, and just how "pure" Pakistan should be.

Whether in Pakistan or Afghanistan, questions like should people be free to listen
to music, shave their beard, or not wear a headscarf, can deeply divide the country.

Moderates are defending women's right to go to school and work,
and arguing that society should not interfere in personal matters.

Social conservatives, such as the pro-Taliban forces, take issue with all of that, and want to
impose the death penalty for adultery, rape, blasphemy, and lashes for fornicators and drunks.

Many see it as a battle between the rural majority and urban
minority, the rich and the poor, the commoners and the elites.

Either way, it is tearing the region apart, and becoming bloodier day by day.

On Tuesday, Riz speaks with veteran Pakistani human rights
activist Asma Jahangir on the battle for the soul of Pakistan.

This episode of the Riz Khan show aired on Tuesday, May 12, 2009.
http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/rizkhan/2009/05/200951281757493843
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Rehman Malik, Pakistan's interior minister, said intelligence
reports suggested that one of the two men had been killed.

"We have information that one of them has been killed. Who
was killed we will be able to say later after confirming," he said.

"The infighting was between Wali ur Rehman and Hakimullah Meshud."

However, a Taliban official in South Waziristan insisted that the government
had fabricated reports of fighting between the different factions.

Noor Said, a spokesman for the Pakistani Taliban, said: "There was no
fighting in the shura. Both Wali ur Rehman and Hakimullah are safe and sound."

The reports have added to earlier confusion surrounding the reported death of Baitullah
Mehsud, the Pakistani Taliban leader who had a US bounty of $5m on his head.

'Dissent and discord'

However, Syer Tariq Pirzada, a strategic affairs analyst in Islamabad, told Al Jazeera that

the reported shootout strongly indicated that Baitullah Mehsud was "dead or functionally dead".

"Had he been alive, he was such a strong leader, he would not have allowed
this dissent, this discord and this violent confrontation ... to happen," he said.

Earlier on Saturday, Hakimullah Mehsud had told reporters by telephone that Baitullah
Mehsud was in good health and would soon appear in the media to prove that he was alive.

Mahmood Shah, a former security chief for the tribal regions, said that Hakimullah
Mehsud's claims could have been part of the power struggle within the movement.

"I think that this denial from them ... doesn't appear to be holding
much water," he said. "It should have come earlier and ... much stronger."

"There is, I think, a struggle going on for the leadership, and Hakimullah Mehsud is one of the contenders."

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2009/08/20098973616456386.html

As always with Al Jazeera, many more straightforward news inside.