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Elmer Phud

03/07/09 7:46 PM

#77160 RE: RobertG #77158

Robert

Regarding Gold. I've been hearing the gold bugs touting gold for decades. It never goes much of anywhere even when we see the exact conditions they warned us we would need gold to survive. This is it. This is what they warned us about and gold is worth less that it was in the 70s before you adjust for inflation.
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Nanochick

03/07/09 7:52 PM

#77161 RE: RobertG #77158

Will gold appreciate more than Intel over the next year or two? I would guess most likely.
Intel's earnings (EPS) are expected to tank, going from $.92 in 2008 to $.38 in 2009 and $.79 in 2010 (estimates that seem reasonable to me - it's guesswork, of course, but there is no doubt that EPS will be much lower).

In 2008, dividends were 61% of the EPS. At this rate, 2009 dividends would be $0.23 (annually!), and 2010 $.48.
The actual numbers will be different, but it seems to be a reasonable assumption that drastically reduced earnings result in lower dividends and lower stock prices.

Revenue estimates of Intel's main customers are in the same ballpark, so Intel can't do better unless there is an expansion into new markets (MIDs, ...), and Intel is trying to do that.
So even if gold doesn't move much, it seems a better investment (and so does cash/secure bonds, as long as inflation remains at ~0).

I would love to see any convincing arguments that paint a less bleak picture about INTC.
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Sarmad

03/07/09 7:56 PM

#77162 RE: RobertG #77158

>> Will gold appreciate more than Intel over the next year or two?

I expect INTC to outperform gold by 2x (relative to US Dollar) over the next two years. Hopefully one of the thread historians will remind us when the time comes.