I do have DAT..only it's USELESS at Cschwab on ALL OTC and PINKsheet stokc. They cater to to the bigger markets and "could care less about ANYONE stupid enough to trade pinks" that is a QUOTE from one of their reps ! I agree...to much trading IS bad...but back when I was TRADING out of losers and INTO winners I was ok....it was not until I was FORCED to go LONG in March that I got KILLED. I took MOST of my losses in that thirty day period and things have been slidding off since then. sucks...but here I sit...."willing to go, ready to STAY AND PAY !" catman..ISYA