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ergo sum

06/24/04 6:54 PM

#50682 RE: Lance325 #50681

Okay

Most of those people not working and being added to the non working statistics are taking early retirement. This reduces the number of people who are considered unemployed.

If you want to credit the President with an upturn in the economy then you can't argue the President is not responsible for the economy.

The point is. Most of the people in this country who want to work are working and have been working. These are the people who vote. For these people all this talk of recession etc, is irrelevant. What is relevant to them is whether or not their salaries are keeping up with their costs. Filling up the car, paying the utility bill.


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OrangeFluffyCat

06/24/04 7:13 PM

#50683 RE: Lance325 #50681

Lance.
It's nice you are involved in politics at 17, but....
you do not want to be the kind of person who automatically labels people. You will only be scorned for that.
You have no earthly idea whether "ergo" is a Democrat, Independant, Republican, Green, or just votes the person he thinks best in any given election despite their party affiliation. The nation is not truly "left" and "right". And, you don't know enough about politics to be making the statements that you are.

"Stating" numbers doesn't make them true. It also doesn't make them the only thing to be considered in the equasion in order to come up with a valid conclusion.
Arbitrarily saying that because a person doesn't state numbers, their response is invalid, is not true. That's just you declaring it to be -- which holds no water. BTW, it's not just "Democrats" that have opinions, and data, contrary to yours on the economy. I ran across a few Republicans in the finance industry the other day, so, if you read, as opposed to living in your own preconceived opinion-land, you'll find other opinions also -- and the data used to support it. It's not necessarily up to anyone else to run around finding it for you.

The US government actually *does* have input in energy prices.
That's a much deeper subject than you make it, and far too complex to go into on a messageboard. Perhaps you will learn more in college. Clearly you could use a course in economics, and some poly sci. (2 or 3 would be better - 1 does little)

It's great that you work. But, not all the people who are unemployed are "lazy". You have a lot to learn about life and people. "Generalizations" are rarely, if ever, true.

BTW
A fact is that 1.4 million jobs have been added since August

A partial fact is often an untruth, or at the very least, an inaccurate picture. Jobs are still down more than that. The past few months increase, has not erased the decreases that took place in his first three years. Economies are cyclical, and after years of loosing jobs, ya better believe you'd better have some increase show up -- and most often will no matter who is in office. Also, home ownership has been on a tear since before Bush ever came into office. There's more to it than "Bush".

All in all, your posts were no more factual than the people you decided to try to bash --though no one had bashed you.

You are 17. You work, you are interested, you plan on going to college. Good, wonderful, congrats. But, don't grow up to be an idiot. Attitude change!


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webster groves

06/24/04 10:10 PM

#50692 RE: Lance325 #50681

<I am 17 years old without a high school education(yet, just one more year then Im on to college)>

I suggest making out a Will instead.
Come December, you'll be enjoying a desert vacation
courtesy of the new draft.

wg
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seabass

06/25/04 1:39 AM

#50724 RE: Lance325 #50681

>>>I am a big Bush supporter, but he does like to spend WAY too much. However, he doesnt hold back when it comes to putting money into programs that fight terrorism<<<

Does it matter at all to you HOW he spends the money on programs that fight terrorism? Are you happy with the return on your tax dollars so far?


CIA Spy: We're Losing Terror War

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/23/eveningnews/main6258
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"Revising a faulty report issued in April, the U.S. State Department yesterday released figures on global terrorist attacks showing a dramatic increase in strikes last year, precisely opposite the trend suggested by earlier figures, which Bush administration officials had seized as proof the United States was winning the "war on terror."

http://www.unwire.org/UNWire/20040623/449_25162.asp