Sherri said: Yes, this ad definitely goes too far. With today's technology, it's very easy to cut out only different snippets, piece them together and make them sound like someone said something.
If E. Dole is this desparate to get her votes, I would hate to see what she would do in office.
Shameful.
Posted on October 29, 2008 9:31 AM
Justin Bonaparte said: What does too far mean? If you mean painting atheists and agnostics (a group that I include myself in) as having no morals, with sinister music behind it playing to the base fears of a population that is by a great margin of some religious affiliation, then yes, it's too far.
And I disagree vehemently with that type of portrayal because it has absolutely no basis in truth.
Posted on October 29, 2008 10:40 AM
Wanda said: Too far? No more so than some of the other political ads I've seen. I agree with Sherri that with the use of today's technology, some things might not appear to be what they actually are, yet if Kay Hagan hadn't been at this particular fundraiser hosted by Woody Kaplan, there would be no grounds for the ad in the first place.
Hagan feels hurt that Dole is attacking her strong Christian faith, however, just because she was raised in church (as are a lot of politicians), attended Sunday School every week and continues to do so, doesn't mean she's incapable of accepting campaign contributions from a group of atheists.
Maybe Kay Hagan could set all of our minds at ease with the answer to one question...What did she promise in return for contributions and/or endorsements by ActBlue?
Posted on October 29, 2008 11:16 AM
Diane Hester said: This ad certainly does go too far. This is the lowest of the low. Dole is stooping to an all-time low. This shows how desperate she is.
Her real place is Kansas with Bob Dole. Her place and her vote should be with her husband, in Kansas. Leave North Carolina to the people who really live here.
Posted on October 29, 2008 11:18 AM
Diane Hester said: This ad certainly does go to far. This is the lowest of the low. Dole is stooping to an all-time low. This shows how desperate she is.
Her real place is Kansas with Bob Dole. Her place and her vote should be with her husband, in Kansas. Leave North Carolina to the people who really live here.
Posted on October 29, 2008 11:18 AM
Jack said: To throw this stinker of an ad out in the waning days of an otherwise lackluster career and campaign just shows what a tired, old pol Elizabeth Dole truly is. Helping to govern effectively is clearly not part of Dole's career at this point; keeping hold of her power at any cost apparently is.
What a pathetic desparation move it is. The ad and Dole should be ignored.
Posted on October 29, 2008 11:28 AM
Biff said: Yes, this ad goes to far, and I'll tell her so to her face the next time she's in North Carolina, (provided she knows where North Carolina is, and how to get here).
Posted on October 29, 2008 11:28 AM
j hill said: Fair Game if Hagan was at that PAC meeting. In these last days before the election, I've basically tuned out all political ads and most political news coverage anyway so I don't think it will make much difference. From earlier ads looked like Hagan was mean-spirited and a "know-it-all' but don't know her personally so I'll leave it up to the people of NC to sort it out.
Posted on October 29, 2008 11:58 AM
Lloyd said: This is fair game. If Hagan is the Christian she claims to be, then why did she attend this fundraiser? Why is she a member of a political party whose platform includes abortion? Why does she mislead people about "balancing five straight budgets" when that's what the state constitution requires?
Posted on October 29, 2008 12:37 PM
Kham said: Yes It goes to far......... and they knew that when they ran the ad... When I first saw it I was disgusted. I hadn't even decide who I was going to vote for until I saw this ad... and it will not be Mrs. Dole. I am tired of all this negative campaigning. . .
Posted on October 29, 2008 12:59 PM
Debbie said: The ad may go to far but the truth is known to hurt. Dole may not be the best choice for NC but neither is Hagan. For that matter neither is Obama or McCain. But if we are to vote for the candidate that is the lesser of 2 evils - Hagan is not in that group.
Posted on October 29, 2008 2:14 PM
Debbie said: The ad may go to far but the truth is known to hurt. Dole may not be the best choice for NC but neither is Hagan. For that matter neither is Obama or McCain. But if we are to vote for the candidate that is the lesser of 2 evils - Hagan is not in that group.
Posted on October 29, 2008 2:14 PM
Alex said: That is the dirtiest ad I have seen in years, which is saying something. Challenge her on the association with the organization, but this insinuation that she doesn't believe in God is intentionally misleading, mean-spirited, divisive fear-mongering. Is this who Elizabeth Dole is? I had always thought more of her, but not any longer.
Posted on October 29, 2008 2:31 PM
Anna said: Elizabeth Dole is an embarrassment to the state of North Carolina.
Posted on October 29, 2008 2:41 PM
James Steffen said: Elizabeth Dole's ad is sleazy in two different ways: 1) It's an outright lie--Hagan is an active Christian. 2) It shouldn't matter whether Hagan or anyone else is or isn't a Christian, a Hindu or an atheist.
This is America, and there's something called freedom of religion. Dole and her right-wing cohorts seem to have forgotten about that. They would fail an American History course, because can't seem to remember what our founding fathers actually said (and believed!) regarding religious faith. It's time to reclaim the true American value of religious tolerance.
Oh yeah, and it's time to send Elizabeth Dole a message: use sleazy campaign tactics, lose the election.
Posted on October 29, 2008 3:18 PM
Martin said: This is what gives Christians a bad name. Extremist hate filled spew like this. Dole is an idiot for doing this.
Posted on October 29, 2008 3:27 PM
Mark said: Too far indeed. Dole is carpetbagger of the highest degree, and with this ad, a christian of the lowest.
Posted on October 29, 2008 3:54 PM
Christine said: Elizabeth Dole was in Rockingham County this morning 10/29/08. She spoke to about 100 citizens..She stated that Kay Hagan had gone wobbly..The only wobbly was Elizabeth with her new hip implants taxpayer paid for..She lost the Triad and Triangle with her support of the evil ad run by her party.. Godless Hagan. Shame on you Elizabeth!!!!
Posted on October 29, 2008 3:54 PM
Billy said: This ad goes way too far. Dole should pull it immediately. For that matter, it should have never been run.
We need someone in congress that will lead the charge for "real" campaign reform and outlaw this sort of trash.
Posted on October 29, 2008 4:15 PM
Bob B. said: There appears to be a strong consensus that a growing portion of the voting population is growing weary of the negative campaign and that many voters finally recognize that this strategy is used to distract voters from the issues at hand or to misdirect the lack of a verifiable track record. Just look at how ineffective some of the advertising campaigns have been for those candidates who are training in the polls. This type of ad will likely cause as much voter backlash with the new breed of independent thinking voters as it will gain traction with the more gullible among us.
Posted on October 29, 2008 4:50 PM
Ron said: This ad is despicable. It goes well beyond the already low and ugly tactics of the current campaigns.
Posted on October 29, 2008 5:03 PM
Jeffrey Sykes said: I loved the ad. I thought the music was great and the quality of the cinematography was top notch. I really like the longer version too.
Posted on October 29, 2008 5:07 PM
Paula said: This add is an outright lie. I happen to know Kay Hagan and have been on a mission trip with her. She is an active member at First Presbyterian Church and an elder. It is a shame for a supposedly Christian woman such as MS Dole to make such statements. The Bible says judge not yet ye be judged.
Posted on October 29, 2008 5:24 PM
Johnny said: The bible also says women are to remain silent in church, so how then can Hagan be an eldress in her church and be in agreement with what the bible says?
Posted on October 29, 2008 6:28 PM
val said: Elizabeth Dole is fighting a losing battle. I think she will "not" be returning to Washington for a 2nd term. She has to go negative because this is all she has left............
Posted on October 29, 2008 6:44 PM
Brooks Gardner said: Senator Dole is an embarassment to The Tar Heels of North Carolina. Jesse Helms would be rolling over in his grave over this one. Dole has disgraced her husband and she has shown her true colors. I agree, that she does not know the way to North Carolina unless someone else brings her. He record of tending to Tar Heel needs is terrible. We need to give Kay Hagan a chance to prove to us what a real Senator is like.
Posted on October 29, 2008 6:48 PM
racerrk87 said: Dole has succeeded in emulating Helms... Simply unbelievable that one of the few Republicans I respected would stoop this low. She did not and should not have attempted this. It is wrong and a very long stretch at best. I hope the message next Tues will be loud and clear. Christian, Atheist, Whatever, this was just plain wrong, and hopefully will backfire.
Posted on October 29, 2008 7:43 PM
Johnny said: Has anyone else seen this video?
Posted on October 29, 2008 8:42 PM
Kelly E. said: A political action commitee (PAC) that represents atheists is no different politically than any other PAC. A senator has a responsibility to represent the political interests of ALL her constituents, including atheists.
When Sen. Dole criticizes Hagan for "associating" with atheists she lowers herself to the same place as the Pharisees who criticized Jesus for associating with prostitutes and sinners.
Furthermore, to go beyond criticizing Dole for meeting with the PAC and perhaps accepting campaign funds from them, and then to insinuate that Hagan herself is godless is a despicable calomny, a base slander and a thoroughly un-Christian action.
Posted on October 29, 2008 9:12 PM
RC Conrad said: RC Conrad said, Yes this ad goes too far. This is an example of why I, A Reagan Era War Veteran Republican chose to disaffiliate this year as a 25 year Republican and change to the party of Democrat. There are many many more reasons why I changed. The deceptions, the greediness, the self indulgence of serving for themselves and not the people are at the top of my list. I just couldn’t bare to be a republican anymore. It was beginning to be shameful. If you don’t make millions of dollars a year, lie and create falsehoods and deceptions about others, indulge in greed for yourself, boast about falsehood claims that you have achieved, while sitting back and actually a coward of your undoing, THEN YOU AREN’T A REPUBLICAN EITHER!!!
Posted on October 29, 2008 10:00 PM
Rice said: North Carolina will be pleased once Dole is gone and Kay takes office.
I'm a teacher who had the pleasure of traveling to China with Kay several years ago. I was sold the moment she asked me what would make education for our kids better. The person talking with me wasn't a politician wanting my vote, but rather a leader wanting to make a difference.
Posted on October 29, 2008 10:20 PM
Paul said: Hagan belongs to the NAACP how much more Godless can she get?
Posted on October 29, 2008 10:48 PM
elizabeth said: Perhaps the focus here should not be on this particular ad itself, but on the state of political campaign ads in general. In this particular campaign, and many others, BOTH candidates have gone negative. I think negative ads, from either candidate, are distasteful and a misuse of campaign funding. Instead of telling me about the other candidate's effectiveness ranking or about the other candidate's attendance at a distinctly left-wing and arguably un-Christian political gathering, tell me about YOURSELF: your policies, plans, stance on important issues. Regardless of whether this ad "went too far," as a North Carolinian voting in this election, I would want an explanation for Hagan's attendance at this event as well as a statement concerning her particular views, whether personal or political, about the agenda advocated by this group. While it may not be in the best taste, most political campaign ads are not. "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Voltaire
Posted on October 30, 2008 12:58 AM
kim ruthven said: Elizabeth is sitting down on a couch right now putting on her ruby red slippers. Put a sign up in the front yard "For Sale" and tell everyone you are buying a plane ticket back to Kansas!
Posted on October 30, 2008 1:55 AM
kim ruthven said: Elizabeth is sitting down on a couch right now putting on her ruby red slippers. Put a sign up in the front yard "For Sale" and tell everyone you are buying a plane ticket back to Kansas!
Posted on October 30, 2008 1:55 AM
kim ruthven said: Elizabeth is sitting down on a couch right now putting on her ruby red slippers. Put a sign up in the front yard "For Sale" and tell everyone you are buying a plane ticket back to Kansas!
Posted on October 30, 2008 1:55 AM
kim ruthven said: Liddy Dole is putting on her ruby red slippers and clicking them 3 times. She is on her way back to Kansas. Thanks Liddy. Put the sign in the front yard. FOR SALE
Posted on October 30, 2008 1:57 AM
David Blackburn said:
Who is Godless?
Would God support policies and usury that drive people out of their homes? Would God deny health care to his children? Would God bomb a country because it had an oppressive leader and then occupy that country for several years? Would God take money away from education and the poor and give it to the wealthy? Would God want a clean environment?
Look at the records of the candidates for Senator and then determine who is Godless.
Vote for Hagan!
Posted on October 30, 2008 4:58 AM
mikeg said: Liddy can't run on her strong record cause she doesn't have one. all she can do is sling mud and incite fear and hatred. time for her to go.
Posted on October 30, 2008 6:46 AM
David said: I once worked with Elizabeth Dole in Washington. While once proud of this experience, I am now ashamed. Elizabeth Dole should be ashamed of herself. North Carolina should be ashamed of her. She will answer to God for her actions. Shame! Shame! Shame!
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