No John....Walt was not a paid promoter. I only meant that he was a good promoter and PR man.....He stayed in touch with the companies and let investors know what was happening and probably was one of the best at digging up information....but he was not paid and he definately told folks how he felt about companies. He was a class act. Don't ever think that Walt duped anyone on a stock because nothing could be further from the truth. He was a believer in CAVICO...and had quite a bit of stock in this company.