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When I was watching the debate yesterday I was thinking how she kept her speech totally free from any content that could be construed as facts.

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i went to the annual greek festival this afternoon. its at the greek orthodox church.. it was well on its way to being filled with patrons.. they have good food, music, pastries and greek folk dancers... the church was open for vespers, so i walked in... there were two men with name tags so i asked one if he was a chaperone, he said no and was kind of shy..

i told him i have questions about the church and its services could he answer them? then the other guy stepped in.. the church resembled the gothic catholic church i grew up in, but it wasnt as grand in scale and instead of real stained glass windows, it had painted pictures that simulated windows.. the pews and altar were similar to ours..

we discussed the differences between catholicism and orthodox greek christianity.. he said they worship in the same way that it was done as far back as 1500 ad (or so from what i recall)..

i asked him if they had purgatory and limbo in their belief system.. he said no, purgatory doesnt exists.. he did say that their faith and beliefs were similar to the baptist even though the appearance of the church is closer to what i recall in other catholic churches.. he said the catholics are wrong about purgatory and wondered where the babies went that had been in limbo before the pope recently did away with that disposition for unbaptized souls...

he thought his beliefs were superior to others and the true expression of christianity.. i remember that mindset growing up... every sect of christianity thought they were the only ones that had the path to paradise/heaven ...

i asked him what he thought about the evangelicals and the place they hold in our current govt... he didnt speak favorably of pentecostals... he spoke about jesus alot but more so from a place of how he fit into their beliefs, although he did say he would witness to me if i wanted him to and that we could pray together right there...i offered no expression... i didnt want to encourage that...

he was raised catholic but converted to greek orthodox a long time ago....

a man dressed in a black robe walked into the church foyer. he had longer straw like salt and pepper hair and a full beard that was quite long.. he stood about five feet from us.. the guy i was talking to made a statement to me about some aspect of their beliefs and the man nodded, walked over shook the guys hand and then walked away and back into the church.. i asked the guy who befriended me if that guy was part of the church and if he had taken a vow of silence.. he said he wasnt part of the church hyerarchy, just a member.. he asked why i thought he had taken a vow of silence.. i said because he didnt say anything... he said that because he's crazy.... we are open to all people as long as they arent dangerous... and that he usually follows him around to be sure he isnt misleading anybody who may mistake his appearance for being one of the priest...

i asked this guy what he thought about todays political climate and the merging of religion into our govt. he said it didnt worry him.. his church had survived many of these kind of merges and invoked kosovo as an example.. and a reference to the nazi's too.. his church survived them all.. but i said they were very destructive forces, didnt that concern him.. he said, he was at peace.. and thats what his religion offered him and it was a good place to be....

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Flirting her way to victory

Sarah Palin's farcical debate performance lowered the standards for both female candidates and US political discourse

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2008/oct/03/sarah.palin.debate.feminism

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Gwen Ifel Did Not Ask ONE Interesting Question!

Her questions weren't soft so much as they were easy.

Expected.

General.

It's like she said, "The ecomomy.

Go." "Iraq. Go." "Iran. Go."

"Taxes. Go."

She made it very easy for Palin to just plug in a memorized answer.

Thus, we learned NOTHING.

Better would have been, "Governor Palin, you recently said that..." kinds of questions.

Questions SPECIFIC to the candidates. Her questions were questions anyone could have asked anyone.

Very disappointing.

Knowing that she'd bend over backwards not to seem biased, the DEMS should have insisted that she recuse herself.

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Abbreviated Version of the Debate for Dummies

failin says:

Um, OP. MAhverick.

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Ahhh, that's quite the loving god you describe there..

[arizona1]

Whoa! That's some scary shit.

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Palin Says She Will Resign as Alaska Governor

VIDEO
Palin Announces Resignation
Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska announced Friday that she would step down by the end of the month and not seek a second term as governor.
http://video.nytimes.com/video/playlist/politics/1194811622221/index.html#1194841338826 [give it a moment, will go through to the correct video]


At a Friday news conference, Gov. Palin said, “I am determined to take the right path for Alaska even though it is unconventional.”
Robert DeBerry/The Mat-Su Valley Frontiersman, via Associated Press


Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin hugs Alaska Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell after she announced she would be stepping down as governor.
Robert DeBerry/The Mat-Su Valley Frontiersman, via Associated Press

Multimedia
Milestones: Sarah Palin
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http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2008/08/29/us/politics/20080829_PALIN_TIMELINE.html#

By ADAM NAGOURNEY and JIM RUTENBERG
Published: July 3, 2009

Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska announced Friday that she was quitting her job at the end of the month, a move that shocked Republicans across the country and fueled both renewed speculation about her presidential ambitions and criticism of her political competence.

Ms. Palin’s decision, announced with her family in front of a lake at her home in Wasilla, set off widespread speculation in Republican circles that she is preparing for a run for the presidency in 2012. Ms. Palin, 45, was supposed to serve as governor through the end of 2010; on Friday, she said she would cede control of the state to the lieutenant governor, Sean Parnell, on July 25.

Ms. Palin announced the decision in an often rambling press conference, in which she invoked the words of General Douglas MacArthur and the rules of basketball, but offered few clues about her intentions. Instead, she said she had decided not to seek re-election when her term expires, and that she thought it would be unfair to her constituents to remain in office as a lame duck.

“As I thought about this announcement that I would not seek re-election, I thought about how much fun other governors have as lame ducks: They maybe travel around their state, travel to other states, maybe take their overseas international trade missions,” she said.

“I’m not going to put Alaskans through that,” she continued. “I promised efficiencies and effectiveness. That’s not how I’m wired. I’m not wired to operate under the same old politics as usual.”

Ms. Palin’s announcement marked another unusual milestone in what has been a tumultuous year since Senator John McCain, the Arizona Republican, picked her as his running mate to initial acclaim by many in their party, which later turned into bitter recriminations with Mr. McCain’s advisers over her style. The unusual press conference was also the latest in a series of disruptions for the Republican Party as it has sought to find its footing in the wake of continued Democratic gains.

As questions reverberated in Republican circles about what she had intended to communicate with the statement, she posted a note on Twitter that read: “We’ll soon attach info on decision to not seek re-election... this is in Alaska’s best interest, my family’s happy ... it is good, stay tuned.”

Ms. Palin is one of a number of Republican governors who are considering seeking the presidential nomination in 2012 and whose terms expire in 2010. Many Republican strategists have argued that it would be very difficult for someone to run for governor in 2010 and turn around immediately, while running a state, to run for president in 2012. Gov. Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota announced last month that when his term expires in 2010 he would not seek re-election, as he considers a presidential bid.

However, leaving office in the middle of a term is highly unusual. Ms. Palin’s decision set off a round of speculation among her critics and bloggers that another embarrassing scandal may be about to unfold. It also empowered critics in both parties who said that this episode would only serve to reinforce doubts among many Americans about her stability, political competence and fortitude.

“Good point guards don’t quit and walk off the floor if the going gets tough,” said John Weaver, a former senior strategist for Mr. McCain. “Today’s move falls further into the weirdness category; people don’t like a quitter.”

In Alaska, state Senator Hollis S. French, a Democrat who filed a letter of intent on Wednesday to run for governor, said, “The idea that ‘The going got tough so I decided to quit’ is inexcusable. That is not an Alaskan value. We celebrate the mushers who drive on through the storm despite the hardship.”

But some of her supporters argued that the announcement could actually provide her an opportunity to recover from what has been a damaging year for her. Ms. Palin has been enmeshed in continuing battles with members of both parties in Alaska’s state Legislature, and her supporters said that her decision to leave office would give her time to prepare for the 2012 race.

The sheer size of Alaska complicated her ability to take care of the most basic kind of presidential preparation work: going to Republican Party state dinners, developing a network of fund-raisers and supporters and getting educated about the issues she might face as a presidential candidate. And Ms. Palin had also taken on another responsibility, having recently signed a lucrative contract to write a book.

“I think she is trying to determine how she can better get to where she’d like to be,” said Alaska House Speaker Mike Chenault, a Republican from the Kenai Peninsula. “And she figures that if she resigns, people can’t be taking so many pot-shots at her.”

William Kristol, the editor of the Weekly Standard and a supporter of Ms. Palin, said that in the end, this could turn out to be a very smart move on her part.

“Everybody I’ve talked to thinks it’s a little crazy,” he said. “But maybe not. What is she going to accomplish in the next year as governor? Every time she left the state she got criticized for neglecting her duties.”

“She’ll take a little hit for leaving the job early, no question about it,” he said. “But if she writes this book and gives speeches and travels the country and educates herself on some issues, that’s good.”

Kitty Bennett and Serge F. Kovaleski contributed reporting.

Copyright 2009 The New York Times Company

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/04/us/politics/04palin.html


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Sarah Palin's resignation as Alaska governor sets off speculation


Sarah Palin hugs Alaska Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell after she announced today she would be stepping down as governor, in Wasilla, Alaska.
Robert DeBerry

Some expect her to run for president; others believe the surprise move will finish her politically.

By Mark Z. Barabak
4:28 PM PDT, July 3, 2009

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin announced Friday that she was quitting her job at the end of the month -- unleashing a torrent of speculation about her plans, motivation and the political wisdom of such a seemingly confounding decision.

Speaking from the backyard of her lakefront home in Wasilla, Alaska, Palin suggested that she would remain active in national politics.

"We know we can effect positive change outside of government," she said in making the announcement, flanked by her husband, Todd, and members of their family.

Many took that to mean a full-fledged run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012, without the encumbrance of her office and the difficulty of navigating a national campaign from thousands of miles away.

But the fact that Palin, 45, will vacate the Alaska governor's office without finishing her one four-year term or bolstering her thin political resume -- which was a detriment during her 2008 vice presidential bid -- led some analysts to suggest the move would badly damage any future political aspirations.


"I always thought after the race what she needed to do was go back to Alaska and be substantive, show she's got a grasp of government and work for the good of the folks back home," said Stuart Rothenberg, an independent campaign analyst in Washington. "This seems to be the exact opposite."

Palin experienced a meteoric rise after Sen. John McCain of Arizona plucked her from relative obscurity to serve as his running mate. She was a smash hit at last summer's Republican National Convention. But her image suffered after a series of unsteady campaign appearances.

She remains a favorite of social conservatives, who traditionally have exerted strong influence over the GOP nomination. But Palin draws a visceral contempt from many Democrats, political independents and even some Republicans -- among them some McCain advisors who bared their sentiments, anonymously, in a recent unflattering article in Vanity Fair magazine.

Palin seemed to allude to those attacks at her impromptu news conference Friday. "You are naive if you don't see a full-court press from the national level picking away a good point guard," said Palin, who was famously aggressive in her days as a high school basketball star.

She spoke in that cryptic fashion throughout her appearance Friday, saying her decision to step down had been some time in the making, although she never clearly spelled out why.

"Many just accept that lame-duck status and they hit that road. They draw a paycheck. They kind of milk it. And I'm not going to put Alaskans through that," Palin said.

She said her successor, Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell, would be sworn in at the governor's picnic in Fairbanks later this month. He was among those stunned by her move; Parnell said he only learned of Palin's decision Wednesday evening.

"It's a gob-smacking, jaw-hit-the-ground total kind of surprise," said Ivan Moore, an independent political pollster in Anchorage who said Palin was a strong favorite to win a second term had she run next year.

As for any presidential ambitions, "I can't see how this move helps her," Moore said. "In fact, quite the opposite. I think it's terribly damaging."

Not everyone agreed.

Scott Reed, a veteran GOP strategist who is unaffiliated with any of the 2012 prospects, said that leaving the governorship would give Palin a chance to rebuild and recast her image.

"It allows her to have a brand-new day -- a fresh start -- and she can shake all those cobwebs from the last campaign and her term as governor and start over," Reed said.

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Copyright 2009 Los Angeles Times

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-palin4-2009jul04,0,6231829.story

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Editing .. adding videos .. F6, not sure if Theocracy Watch has been posted before. excerpt pg 1 of 7 ..

The Rise of the Religious Right in the Republican Party

What's New?

Download audio and video

SEARCH TheocracyWatch .. wow, what content! .. some library .. tag yours the dominionist library.. lol ..

Introduction .. "There will be Satanic forces...

We are not... up just against human beings, to beat them in elections. We're going to be coming up against spiritual warfare."
Pat Robertson, Road to Victory, 1991

In this section: War on Secular Society .. Dominion Mandate .. Who is the Theocratic Right .. Estimate of political strength .. Why We Should Care

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc8XS-PxFFA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W3IqpHmqDQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOSYp_Axq9s&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ0SBFyC0x4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkSqoJxkjyY&feature=related

Since Tom DeLay is in the news today .. one more excerpt from page one

Church and State reported, April, 2003:

"House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas) is helping a controversial Religious Right group raise money to defeat a so-called 'war on Christianity' in America and preserve the nation's alleged "Christian heritage."

DeLay endorsed a campaign by the Rev. Lou Sheldon's Traditional Values Coalition (TVC), which claimed in a fund-raising letter that it will raise $12.6 million to

"stop the all-out assault on Christians being waged by our government, by America's educational institutions, by the media and throughout popular culture." (To read a current fundraising letter by TVC, click here.)

Repeat: Theocracy Watch page 1

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F6, here because of the theocracy connection, that's virtually all .. there is the bit about bandits, the underlined, then the bottom section ..

Excerpt: Chased out of Uganda in 2005, the LRA has since marauded through the jungles of South Sudan, the Democratic Republic of the Congo and the Central African Republic in search of refuge from the Uganda People's Defence Force.

The LRA chief, Joseph Kony, is now thought to be hiding out in southern Darfur under the auspices of the national government of Sudan, which is opposed to South Sudan's likely secession from Khartoum in a referendum scheduled for January 9.

Kony, 49, is wanted by the International Criminal Court for crimes against humanity, and styles himself as
a Christian ''prophet'' whose mission is to turn Uganda into a theocracy ruled by the Ten Commandments.

Now the LRA is little more than a gang of bandits, with little, if any, real political motive, engaged in a battle for survival.

The Arrow Boys deputy commander in Kassia, Aquila Daniel, said the LRA attacked without warning. ''Their only motive
plunder,'' he said. ''They take our food, and they take any other possessions we have including women and children.''

In the event of an attack, an alarm is sounded to mobilise the Arrow Boys.

''We are here hiding in the trees, waiting. The boys have little training; they only want to protect their families,'' Mr Daniel said.

''It is difficult to know how many of the LRA we kill because whenever an LRA member falls, the others in the group are under orders to bring back their bodies to their camp, whatever the cost.

''So occasionally we find traces of blood in the grass, we hope it is evidence that we have killed one of them, but we have never been able to claim a body.''

Emmanuel Samuel, 10, joined the arrow boys in July when he heard the LRA were in the area.

''The village elders told me to stay in the village but I wanted to follow my father,'' Emmanuel said.''I have fired my weapon [a bow and arrow] just once.

''No, I was not afraid because my mother and father were there fighting alongside me.''

The end of and and the link to the above: Kate Geraghty travelled to Sudan courtesy of Doctors Without Borders

Further, please, if you ever have time take some to read this, and the embedded links ..

Resolve, Uganda: US President Obama's strategy on the LRA
Wednesday, December 01, 2010

FOR the record, here is a copy of an email received today from Paul Ronan, Director of Advocacy, Resolve (formerly Resolve Uganda), followed by a copy of a blog post and tweet published today by Sam Bell, Executive Director of the newly merged Save Darfur Coalition / Genocide Intervention Network.

Please find attached President Obama's strategy on the Lord's Resistance Army, released on November 24th. Section 4 of the LRA Disarmament and Northern Uganda Recovery Act, which passed US Congress in May, mandated that President Obama develop “a strategy to guide future United States support across the region for viable multilateral efforts to mitigate and eliminate the threat to civilians and regional stability posed by the Lord’s Resistance Army.”

Below please find highlights and a brief breakdown of the strategy, including actions listed as priorities for implementation. We look forward to being in touch in the coming weeks with deeper analysis of the strategy and next steps for implementation. Two likely challenges to implementation will be securing adequate funding from Congress and the current lack of a senior LRA point person within State Department. Also attached is a press roundup of media coverage of the strategy release.

Best, .. Paul .. Director of Advocacy .. Resolve (formerly Resolve Uganda) .. [adjusted for this post]

Vision:
“Though the challenge is complex, the vision remains simple: people in central Africa are
free from the threat of LRA violence and have the freedom to pursue their livelihoods."

Purpose:
The strategy does not contain much detail about specific action steps, instead providing an "overarching, comprehensive strategy direction over several years to... increase the likelihood of success in mitigating and eliminating the threat posed by the LRA." (Upcoming Congressional decisions on levels of funding will help determine how robustly the strategy is implemented and hence specific action steps.) .. much more in Uganda Watch.

If interested in the whole of the first article it is here

Ummm .. no .. enough said for now ..

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thru F6 .. arizona, 100% yours, a must read ..

Rachel Tabachnick, ... is titled The DeVos Family: Meet the Super-Wealthy
Right-Wingers Working With the Religious Right to Kill Public Education
http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/150868/the_devos_family%3A_meet_the_super-wealthy_right-wingers_working_with_the_religious_right_to_kill_public_education/?page=entire

is the one at the top of your .. http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=62878109

and surely fitting to be linked to the the F6 DOMINIONIST library

done .. :) .. the underhanded way in which the extreme religious right-wingers
are attempting to undermine USA 'democracy' is all truly serious and scary stuff.

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another one to tie in -- (item linked in) http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=47260062

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Eye Roll Uptight Parents Pull Kids From School Because Teacher Is Too Hot

Posted by Julie Ryan Evans
on March 20, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Comments (64)

apple for teacher .. [tasty looking candy apple, stuck inside]

There's something about teachers being hot that's just too much for some parents to handle. Currently in the hot seat, so to speak, is Michela Roth, 39, who has outraged parents .. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2116815/Michela-Roth-Nursery-teacher-strips-glamour-calendar.html .. for posing for sexy pictures in a Harley Davidson calendar.

There's no nudity; she's fully clothed in lingerie. You would think, however, that she was rolling around naked on the playground as parents at the Italian preschool where she teaches are pulling their children out in droves. As the Daily Mail points out, mothers are much more upset about this than the fathers. Ha.

Still it's outrageous to think that parents would pull their children out of class with an otherwise reportedly great teacher, just because the teacher looks nice in a negligee. Are people really that uptight?

More from The Stir: 4-Year-Old's Drawing Leads to Dad's Arrest ..
http://thestir.cafemom.com/toddler/133600/4yearolds_drawing_leads_to_dads

I do think a teacher's life outside of the classroom can be cause for concern in some cases, but posing for some sexy pictures isn't one of them. I mean if there were animals involved or it was something really hard core, then we could talk, but lingerie hardly makes one a harlot. Modeling is Roth's second job, and she says she primarily does it on holidays and when she's back in the United States, where's she's from originally. It's not like she's posing in the classroom.

I think she is right in her assessment of the situation -- that jealousy and insecurity has a lot to do with parent's outrage. She told the paper.

Maybe I could have been a model but I just love being a teacher. I think there is a little bit of envy going on here and it has gone over the top -- there are also mums who tell me that their children can't wait to see me in the morning.

One mother even admitted: "She is too attractive and I don't want her teaching my son." Sounds like a lady with some major issues.

More from The Stir: Parents Losing Their Minds Over Preschool Applications Need to Get a Grip ..
http://thestir.cafemom.com/toddler/134850/parents_losing_their_minds_over

I know some people won't hire attractive nannies or don't want other beautiful women around their husband, which is their prerogative however ludicrous. If you can't trust your spouse, or have some big chip on your shoulder about people who are more attractive than you, then that's one problem. Placing that above your child's stability and well-being, however, is just wrong.

Would you have a problem if you learned your child's teacher posed for a sexy calendar?

About the author Julie Ryan Evans can be found writing from coffee houses wherever she may be. The quality
of her days is largely influenced by the seat she nabs and whether a protein plate is available. More

http://thestir.cafemom.com/toddler/134834/uptight_parents_pull_kids_from

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Chess Union Warns Women: No Cleavage

European Chess Union tells gals to button up
By Neal Colgrass, Newser Staff

Posted Mar 17, 2012 2:47 PM CDT .. COMMENTS (9)


A male chess player tries not to look. (Shutterstock)

(Newser) – Maybe this classic Austin Powers scene ..

.. has affected chess championship rules? Whatever the reason, the European Chess Union has ruled that female players will have to button their shirts from now on, Time .. http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/03/11/chess-championships-lose-sex-appeal-with-new-no-cleavage-rule/?iid=obinsite#ixzz1p7BlpinF .. reports. "Décolletés [the French word for cleavage] are partly covered in our regulations, which state that in respect to shirts the second from the top button may also be opened, in addition to the very top button," says ECU general secretary Sava Stoisavljevic.

In an interview with ChessBase.com .. http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=7970 .. Stoisavljevic adds that the union may follow other companies in restricting the shortness of skirts—to two or four inches above the knee, for example: "I can see that there are many players here who wear very short skirts. It's nice to see chess players with short skirts—they are very pretty girls. But I believe there should still be some limit."

http://www.newser.com/story/141868/chess-union-warns-women-no-cleavage.html

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Kony 2012: Limbaugh berates Obama for sending troops after Joseph Kony (Video)


Photo: LRA's band of teen soldiers AP

Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - Ad Lib .. http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/ad-lib/ ..
by Catherine Poe .. http://communities.washingtontimes.com/staff/catherine-poe/

The End-Time is Here
2008 was God's last warning. 2012 is economic collapse & WW III www.the-end.com ..
http://the-end.com/2008GodsFinalWitness/?gclid=CMO_i9PSmrACFQdKpgod-BnHWw


Catherine Poe

Ask me a question. .. http://communities.washingtontimes.com/staff/catherine-poe/contact/

WASHINGTON, March 13, 2012 — Even as we sit comfortably at home watching the Kony 2012 YouTube sensation along with 76 million other viewers worldwide, sharing it on our Facebook making sure another million or so of our friends also see it, President Obama did something about.

Last October President Obama sent troops after Joseph Kony. He didn’t just watch. He acted.

Before it became viral, before Joseph Kony was a household word, before it was a cause célèbre in dorm rooms across America and a skit on the Jon Stewart Show, President Obama ordered 100 of our elite troops into the jungles of Uganda to help the regional forces to hunt down and root out the elusive Kony and his so-called Christian Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA) that has terrorized Uganda, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, the Central African Republic, and South Sudan.

A self-proclaimed prophet, Kony has been wanted for war crimes by the International Criminal Court since 2005 for the atrocities that he has rained down upon the villages of Central Africa for the last twenty years, ranging from kidnapping boys to serve as soldiers to the rape of girls, using them as sex slaves, to the burning villages to the ground to the mutilating of villagers by hacking off their lips.

All in the name of God’s liberation plan.


Joseph Kony, 2006 AP

For the most part, last October Americans didn’t pay much attention to the President’s ratcheting up the ante against Joseph Kony.

They were instead riveted by the capture and death of Muammar Gaddafi. But not Rush Limbaugh. He just couldn’t resist.

And his words .. http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2011/10/14/obama_invades_uganda_targets_christians .. have now come back to haunt him: “The Lord’s Resistance Army are Christians. They are fighting the Muslims in Sudan. .. http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Sudan .. And Obama has sent troops, United States .. http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/United+States .. troops to remove them from the battlefield, which means kill them,” Limbaugh said .. http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2011/10/14/obama_invades_uganda_targets_christians .. on his October 14, 2011 show.

And of course, Rush .. http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2011/10/14/obama_invades_uganda_targets_christians .. being Rush didn’t stop there: “So that's a new war, a hundred troops to wipe out Christians in Sudan, Uganda, and -- (interruption) no, I'm not kidding. Jacob Tapper just reported it. Now, are we gonna help the Egyptians wipe out the Christians? Wouldn't you say that we are? I mean the Coptic Christians are being wiped out, but it wasn't just Obama that supported that. The conservative intelligentsia thought it was an outbreak of democracy.”

Listening to such a diatribe in favor of Joseph Kony, is it any wonder that voters in Mississippi and recently told pollsters .. http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_SouthernSwing_312.pdf .. that they thought Rush was great and Obama was a Muslim?

What makes this all the more interesting is that President Obama had received the support of human rights organizations, evangelical Christians, and even from super conservative Sen. Jim Inhofe, .. http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/Vox-News/2012/0309/Why-did-Rush-Limbaugh-defend-Joseph-Kony-and-Lord-s-Resistance-Army-video .. (R) of Okla., who applauded the President’s deployment of our crack troops: “I stand behind the president in his decision....Joseph Kony and the LRA are responsible for one of the longest, most violent, and costly conflicts ever on the continent of Africa."

The hunt for Joseph Kony and LRA actually began in the George W. Bush administration with 17 counterterrorism advisors sent to train Ugandan troops with millions of dollars in aid to the Ugandan army. While it dispersed the LRA, the rebel army of children regrouped and its reign of terror continued in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

So far, Rush Limbaugh has not eaten his words nor is he likely to. But it is his rush (pun intended) to bash President Obama at every turn, even when he has his facts wrong and is on the wrong side of the argument, that leads Limbaugh into hot water.

Last fall, Rush got away with it. This spring in the case of Sandra Fluke he didn’t.

But it is unlikely that he will get a pass the next time around either, which is why his outrageous attack on our troops and the President has returned to haunt him in the spring of Kony 2012.

To contact Catherine Poe, see above. Her work appears in HYPERLINK "http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/ad-lib/"Ad Lib in the Communities at the Washington Times. She can also be heard on the HYPERLINK "http://www.americasdemocrats.org/"Democrats for America's Future. She is also a contributor to broadcast, print and online media.

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/ad-lib/2012/mar/13/kony-2012-limbaugh-berated-obama-sending-troops-af/

Yup, it struck me late it was the Moonie paper .. see also, the 10th reply to the one i am replying to ..

Chased out of Uganda in 2005, the LRA has since marauded through the jungles of South Sudan, the Democratic Republic of the Congo and the Central African Republic in search of refuge from the Uganda People's Defence Force.

The LRA chief, Joseph Kony, is now thought to be hiding out in southern Darfur under the auspices of the national government of Sudan, which is opposed to South Sudan's likely secession from Khartoum in a referendum scheduled for January 9.
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International Criminal Court Issues First Sentence


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Thomas Lubanga, right, at the International Criminal Court in The Hague on Tuesday.

By MARLISE SIMONS
Published: July 10, 2012

PARIS — The International Criminal Court .. http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/i/international_criminal_court/index.html?8qa .. in The Hague sentenced a Congolese warlord to 14 years in prison on Tuesday for using child soldiers in his rebel army in 2002 and 2003. The sentence was the first imposed by the court in its history.

Thomas Lubanga, .. http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/l/thomas_lubanga/index.html?8qa .. a psychologist turned militia leader, was found guilty in March of “widespread” use of girls and boys under the age of 15, who were often abducted by his group, trained and then used to terrorize and kill villagers in the Ituri region of the Democratic Republic of Congo. .. http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/congothedemocraticrepublicof/index.html?inline=nyt-geo

The presiding judge, Adrian Fulford, said that the sentence reflected “undoubtedly very serious crimes” that violated the protections that must be afforded to children. But the sentence was far short of the 30 years the prosecution had sought.

Mr. Lubanga, 51, who once led the Union of Congolese Patriots and asked every family in his region to contribute a cow, money or a child to his militia, will receive credit for the six years he has already spent in custody in The Hague. If he ends up in a European prison, his sentence could be further reduced if he is released on good behavior after serving two-thirds of his sentence, a common practice on the Continent.

Judge Fulford made a point of praising Mr. Lubanga for his conduct and cooperation in court.

The sentence, after a halting three-year trial, drew renewed attention to another suspect wanted by the court: Joseph Kony, .. http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/k/joseph_kony/index.html?8qa .. the leader of the Lord’s Resistance Army, which for years abducted children and turned them into soldiers as it rampaged through at least four Central African countries.

Other tribunals, including the war crimes court for Sierra Leone, have dealt with similar crimes in recent years, but the ruling by the International Criminal Court, with its near global scope and high visibility, carries particular weight. It is the first permanent tribunal with a continuing mandate to investigate atrocities in countries under its jurisdiction when national courts are unwilling or unable to act.

The case also underscored the teething problems at the court, which was created in 1998 and opened in The Hague in 2002. Though 121 nations recognize it, three major ones — the United States, China and Russia — do not.

One problem has been the persistent tension between the prosecution and the bench. In unusually sharp language, Judge Fulford, a Briton who led the panel of three judges, sharply criticized the chief prosecutor, Luis Moreno-Ocampo, .. http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/luis_morenoocampo/index.html?8qa .. on Tuesday, saying he had made a number of errors. The prosecutor failed to charge Mr. Lubanga with sexual violence, the judges said, even though Mr. Moreno-Ocampo made repeated public claims that the militia was responsible for widespread rape and that girl soldiers were made sexual slaves.

Judge Fulford threw out the case twice and ordered Mr. Lubanga released because of prosecutors’ errors and refusal to follow orders from the bench, which he said were making a fair trial impossible. Both times, appeals judges ordered that the trial be resumed and the errors corrected.

As his sentence was read aloud, Mr. Lubanga clasped his chin and listened quietly.

One of the three judges, Elizabeth Odio Benito of Costa Rica, disagreed with the sentence and in a dissenting opinion said that 15 years would have been more appropriate given the harm done to the victims and their families.

Human rights groups had mixed reactions. André Kito, a Congolese human rights activist, said he regretted that crimes like “sexual violence, summary executions and pillage” were excluded from the trial.

Some groups pointed out that the sentence at least brought some justice to a war-weary country. More than five million people are believed to have died in Congolese conflicts since 1998.

Carla Ferstman, the director of Redress, a group that helps survivors of torture obtain justice and reparation, said she hoped that the trial would focus international attention on the plight of child soldiers. It is essential, she said, that the court quickly reach out to victims to explain the sentence and future steps, including reparation proceedings. The court allows for reparations for victims or their communities, but that issue was not addressed on Tuesday.

It was not immediately clear where Mr. Lubanga would serve his sentence, although a half-dozen countries have agreed to accept convicts from the court. He might remain for some time in The Hague if his lawyers or prosecutors appeal the length of the sentence.

A version of this article appeared in print on July 11, 2012, on page A4 of the New York edition
with the headline: Congolese Warlord Draws First Sentence From International Criminal Court.

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