Replies to post #68451 on Tornado Alley (PROG)

[nwsun]

what caused you to break away and think for yourself? were those conflicts always there or did some event cause you to say this isnt for me?

personally, my break came as i saw how people used religion and religious teachings to defend many things i saw as an antithesis of what i thought religion was trying to impart..

fortunately, i wasnt from a family that placed great emphasis on belief in god... i never understood how grown adults could hold onto such childish beliefs.

and now as i see adults use religion to defend war and killing in the name of my god is better than youre god, religion is taking on a very frightening face..

im not anti-war, but to see god brought into it as somehow blessing the destruction of your enemy somehow seems evil to me...

it makes us no better than the people who use their religious beliefs to justify our destruction...

to see people call themselves christian and then cheer on destruction in the name of jesus is contrary to what that myth is all about... it appears the believers really do operate from a perspective of do unto others as you want them to do unto you...

both sides feed off each other sides hatreds... i dont want any part of it, but feel i must keep apprised of their activities as someday i may be seen as their next target...

[abbytraderwin]

No, I fear no man nor beast. I fear not death. I have been at the gate many times before. I know Jesus is real. He has given me back my life many times. I understand your beliefs or lack there of. I do not wish to change you or scare you. Only you can find what you seek if you seek it. Re-read those two quotes of mine in your post and meditate on that for a few days in peace and silence. It will come to you. "The smarter we are, sometimes the harder it is for us to learn." When we do get it we see that it was so simple and right in front of us all the time.

Where did you come from?

Be what means?

There may come a day when in the throws of death and your last breath you notice something that you never noticed before and understand many things you never even questioned. For some blessed people who have truely seen death and been allowed to return this is easy to understand. There is no myth and it becomes real for you the moment you believe. I have seen those very knowledgeable of the scriptures be as sinful as a devil. Your knowledge is nothing without faith and action. It becomes just another book. I knew a priest as a child who lost his faith. I have seen those who claim to be saved commit outrageous crimes. I can not and do not wish to judge you. I am a sinner and should be dead for all of the things I have done. Since he welcomes me there is hope for all. I truely hope you find what you were searching for. When we get lost it help to re-trace our steps sometimes. You will not be able to change anything but you will know what happened and when. The why you may never know. It makes it easier to get on track and move forward. Your post indicates that you are far less happy than I. I pray for your healing.

This life and each day is a blessing that will never come again. You seem to accept that much. There is a reason for you to be here and even a reason for this contact and exchange. Maybe you have not been asking the right questions. Try why, and then try why again. You will get there.

Don't think because I can be foul and nasty as any devil that I am not a Christian. I am in this world and this is a part of this world. I am human and not like Jesus. I do my best and I also know how to do what I must to survive in this Hell until he lets me go. Christians can and do commit every sin Non-Christians do. It is all in that Bible you read so many times.

It is not always the Hell you are going to but the Hell you are already in that pains you. Hell for most is being seperated from God and you can do that right here on earth. Just look around and see the people around you and the pain they are in. What is your next stop?