Crow3 -- I don't hate any gods either -- haven't met one yet, so why would I? -- when I do meet one, I'll figure out then whether I like him/her/it or not -- in the meantime, . . .
re tornadoes -- then you'd just love an F6 (defined as max surface winds >318 mph) -- they do occur -- saw one at close range in Oklahoma in '91, watched it over more than 20 miles of its course, from still a strong-looking but not that big classical funnel maybe an eighth as wide as it was tall up to the cloud base, to a 1.75-mile wide wedge very similar in appearance and proportion to the one in my sig pic (which was 1.7 miles wide) (I was much closer than that to mine)
they don't call them F6s, but they are (my handle is specifically a protest of that) -- multiple videos from multiple angles of the one I saw clearly showed that the subvortices, which of course are their own intense little rotations, and show as up-and-down spiral ripples moving counterclockwise around the surface of the main funnel body, were themselves translating around the main funnel body, at the ground, at easily 350 mph
a couple of the more interesting results:
the storm had completely stripped about 100 yards of a U.S. highway of multiple layers/inches of asphalt, down to the subgrade rough aggregate concrete base
in a direct signature of those subvortices, dense well-established prairie grass (the type even a strong man CAN'T pull out of the ground if he grabs more than just a bit of it) had been ripped out of completely flat ground in upside-down-comma-shaped swaths southwest to northeast hundreds of yards long and tens of yards wide, within which swaths the exposed heavy wet soil (had been a lot of rainfall in the area in prior weeks) had then been literally scoured out, sucked out, to depths of 10' and more
(pieces of) cattle were found more than 20 miles from where they were supposed to be (there was a massive local rush to the slaughterhouse, over 2000 head needed quick processing, heard and saw them getting that together, as I stayed in the area till later that night after the late afternoon/early evening event)
fortunately, the storm was well-warned, very visible and in open country -- just a couple of injuries, no deaths
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