bob cat? Okay, whatever. I don't know Larry Panik, and I have attempted to get his contact information to speak to him. As you said, there can be several sides to a story. ALL I am dealing with are FACTS, what I can verify, not your or anyone elses BS claims. When you cannot respond to hard questions or facts, you and your operatives respond with personal attacks or pull Larry Panik or some other boogieman out of you backend.