hap0206 -- so 'win' or 'victory' as you use it means that they have to let us stay and allow us to use them for our further imperial quests? -- and if they end up kicking us out and running their own country as THEY see fit, that's 'lose' or 'defeat'? -- mm-hmm, figures
no doubt you are very impressed with how conditions for the Iraqi Christians so mercilessly oppressed under Saddam have so remarkably improved since we went in and got the old bastard
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