nope,,, I havent gotten around to getting to a class, or having somebody explain it to me using etrade- there symbols are a bit off from the ones I see posted,-even happens on stocks sometimes,,, yeah I should learn it,, bucy has done alot to walk me thru it,, he noted that if he likes my pick,, he may run to the calls,, I got to thinking about that,, well hell, yes that makes sence, and more % gain to boot. And yes I will get around to learning that stuff :)