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06/03/08 7:21 PM

#106960 RE: PENNIEStoSTACKS #106778

You're right, you don't have any control of the world's future, it's obvious, none of us do.

No, i cannot "foresee where someone is headed due to their
actions" as circumstances change and so does our thinking.

Yes, I can see where someone may be now and where we are at now, but
as for the future i don't know for sure where she/he or the world will be.

You say if i can't tell the future i am in denial; that's weird.

The fact that so many Americans of influence are fundamentalist, Armageddon, end time old
testament believers is worrying. The idea that words written almost 2000 years ago could affect
foreign policy of any country today, is freaky, as we do know from experience that a belief that
something is fated to happen or that it cannot be avoided often contributes to it's coming about. ..

Saturday, August 05, 2006
The Big Quote Flap and Armageddon

.. a couple of excerpts from a long one, with many links ..

This flap obscures the bigger point that some people do believe this
end of world stuff and this is a big focus of Amstrong's article.

She comments:

"American fundamentalists are convinced that the second coming of Christ is at hand; they have developed an end-
time scenario of genocidal battles based on a literal reading of Revelation that is absolutely central to their theology."

Clearly this sort of literalist reading of Revelation is common. There is even a rapture
index at raptureready.com and here you can find the index's highs and lows for various years:

2003 High 177 2004 High 157 2005 High 161 2006 High 159
2003 Low 133 2004 Low 135 2005 Low 143 2006 Low 151

Record High 182 Record Low 57
24 Sept 01 12 Dec 93

How many people believe the end is close? That is less certain.

.. further down ..

Bill Moyers is clearly concerned about the effects religion on administration policy:

"We're not talking about a handful of fringe lawmakers who hold or are beholden to these beliefs. Nearly half of the members of Congress are backed by the religious right. Forty-five senators and 186 members of the 108th Congress earned 80 to 100 percent approval ratings from the three most influential Christian-right advocacy groups. They include Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, Assistant Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, Conference Chair Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, Policy Chair Jon Kyl of Arizona, House Speaker Dennis Hastert and Majority Whip Roy Blunt. The only Democrat to score 100 percent with the Christian Coalition was Sen. Zell Miller of Georgia, who before his recent retirement quoted from the biblical Book of Amos on the Senate floor: "The days will come, sayeth the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land." He seemed to relish the thought."

http://theforcethat.blogspot.com/2006/08/big-quote-flap-and-armageddon.html

LOL .. to my last breath i will see that a belief in the biblical end time as a sad,
drab, dreary perspective on our situation. I feel it is a denial that the animal
homo-sapien and not your idea of God is in control of the future of our world.

LOL some more than others have more immediate influence, but believe me millions
of great, great, great grandchildren will still be enjoying the wonders of their world.

LOL, hope not so many will still be thinking like you do now .. ;)

ps .. any suggestion that Iran would consider nuking Israel is just the ring in your nose; if you want it to be ..