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06/03/08 1:05 AM

#106744 RE: PENNIEStoSTACKS #106739

The Russian deal with enrichment safeguard's with Iran seems fair enough as Iran should have
the right to have nuclear for energy, as you do .. a kindly loving creator would agree with that ..

lol, it's lucky that Ahmadinejad doesn't have much power .. let's see .. how about Bush says to Ah..
you give us your destroy Israel line .. please do .. that will help our election plans .. meanwhile the
American's just keep on keeping on working with the Mullahs, just like Afghanistan, thru Kosovo days ..

.. will Israel Attack Iran’s Nuclear Facilities Before the End of the Bush Administration? .. well, we've
speculated on that heaps here .. lol .. there is an election coming up .. i haven't read the article, yet ..

Russia and Her Allies Will Attack Israel .. NOPE .. all agog at your gog rubbish again .. lol ..

GOD TOLD ME TO DO IT! .. BOMB! .. KILL! .. DESTROY!

.. you say "Lets see what happens and then make our final decision" ..

i suggest that those who abuse any 'holy' book, by using it as an excuse, or reason,
to deny individuals security and to deny countries a dignified sovereignty, and who
abuse any holy book to wage war are doing a great disservice to our sense of humanity ..

.. the Strategic Plan placed on Iraq is an absolute disgrace ..



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06/03/08 1:31 AM

#106745 RE: PENNIEStoSTACKS #106739

The Gog myth is probably part of a cycle which goes back to the Babylonian-
Assyrian Creation accounts
.. (the fight with and the defeat of the Dragon)..

and, on the other hand, enters largely into the eschatology of Judaism and Christianity (see
Bousset, "The Anti-Christ Legend," London, 1896; Gunkel, "Schöpfung und Chaos," Göttingen, 1895).
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?letter=G&artid=292

.. ok, now i understand your all religions, more, now you are a fatalistic,
phantasmagorial, fundamentalist believer .. is that fair? .. Ashur
..



It was from Assyria which is known as “Mesopotamia” (between the Tigris and Euphrates) that the first civilization began, and generated a wholesome intellectual thought that helped to build scientific as well as religious basis for all cultures. Here, it should be pointed that Babylon which is going to have a large presence in the following paragraphs, is an Assyrian city as it was asserted by the Greek historian Herodotus when he said: "Having subdued the rest of the continent, Cyrus turned his attention to Assyria, where the great cities, especially the most renowned and powerful of them all – Babylon, to which the seat of government was transferred after the fall of Nineveh…"

The God Ashur Killing the Dragon Tiamat

If we are to look deeply into the culture of Assyria, we would find that the Assyrians were the first to believe in the Oneness of God, the unseen and the greatest of all gods, but under a different name every period. For we find the Sumerian “Enlil” who killed the dragon of the seas in order to bring about peace to the world, Then “Mardukh” in Babylon (Ashur in Nineveh). Later the idea was passed to neighbouring peoples like the Phoenicians where goddess Anat the lover of Baal killed the dragon in the Canaanite Epic of Creation ,even the Hebrews' Yahweh is the hero that killed the dragon in the Torah's legend ( Isaiah 27:1 - 51:9) (Psalms 74:11-13 and 89:11). All the gods that killed the dragon of evil in the legends, were to represent the "Greatest" god , which would take on a different name in each period culminating in the word "Alla" at a later time after Christ from the term “El”, whose strength would slay the dragon at the hands of St. George.

We always notice when we study the old Assyrian religion, the plurality of gods because human beings were used in the beginning to sanctify all that was frightful ,and considered every movement in nature and in life as a tool in the hands of each of the gods. When there was a drought, the population would pray to the god of fertility and thunder, and if the king was pondering about something he would pray to the god of wisdom. All this was due to the human being's interaction within his environment. ..
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bethsuryoyo.com/currentevents/AGNisan6752/Dragon.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bethsuryoyo.com/currentevents/AGNisan6752/NisanEnglish.html&h=321&w=432&sz=102&hl=en&start=5&sig2=OGptZqiljKTjwlVuZpZMSA&um=1&tbnid=Tk8U3eJxjPw1HM:&tbnh=94&tbnw=126&ei=V9NESMVSk7LrA_exve0H&prev=/images%3Fq%3DBabylonian-Assyrian%2BCreation%2Baccounts..%2BDragon..%2Bimages%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1B3RNFA_enAU253AU253

edit: maybe even the absence of some science had something to do with it, too .. chuckle ..