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SoxFan

05/16/08 3:45 PM

#331897 RE: 3Saints #331896

Most people don't know that the Alien and Sedition Act passed in WWII was because of what the punk's grandfather was doing in laundering money for the Third Reich. After the war was over an no one was there to collect the money the punks grandfather was Johnny on the spot.
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hap0206

05/16/08 3:46 PM

#331898 RE: 3Saints #331896

Not likely because the really, really big fish in that pond was a democrat
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William Averell Harriman (November 15, 1891 – July 26, 1986)
48th Governor of New York
In office
January 1, 1955 – December 31, 1958
Lieutenant George De Luca
Preceded by Thomas E. Dewey
Succeeded by Nelson A. Rockefeller

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United States Ambassador to the Soviet Union
In office
23 October 1943 – 24 January 1946
President Harry S. Truman
Preceded by William H. Standley
Succeeded by Walter Bedell Smith

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United States Ambassador to the United Kingdom
In office
1946 – 1946
Preceded by John G. Winant
Succeeded by Lewis W. Douglas

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11th United States Secretary of Commerce
In office
October 7, 1946 – April 22, 1948
President Harry S. Truman
Preceded by Henry A. Wallace
Succeeded by Charles W. Sawyer

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Born November 15, 1891(1891-11-15)
New York City, New York
Died July 26, 1986 (aged 94)
Yorktown Heights, New York
Political party Democratic
Spouse Kitty Lanier Lawrence (divorced)
Marie Norton Whitney (her death)
Pamela Beryl Digby Churchill Hayward
William Averell Harriman (November 15, 1891 – July 26, 1986) was an American Democratic Party politician, businessman and diplomat. He was the son of railroad baron E. H. Harriman. He served as Secretary of Commerce under President Harry S. Truman and later as Governor of New York. He was a candidate for the Democratic Presidential Nomination in 1952, and again in 1956 when he was endorsed by President Truman but lost to Adlai Stevenson. Harriman served President Franklin D. Roosevelt as special envoy to Europe and served as the U.S. Ambassador to the Soviet Union and U.S. Ambassador to Britain. He served in various positions in Kennedy and Johnson administrations. Among his wives were Marie Norton Whitney, who left her husband Cornelius Vanderbilt Whitney to marry him, and Pamela Harriman, former wife of Winston Churchill's son Randolph

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Business affairs
Using money from his father, in 1922 he established W.A. Harriman & Co, a banking business. In 1927 his brother E. Roland Harriman joined the business and the name was changed to Harriman Brothers & Company. In 1931 they merged with Brown Bros. & Co. to create the highly successful Brown Brothers Harriman & Co.. Notable employees included George Herbert Walker, and his son-in-law Prescott Bush (father of U.S. president George H. W. Bush).

Harriman's main properties included: Brown Brothers & Harriman & Co; Union Pacific Railroad; Merchant Shipping Corporation; and various venture capital investments including the Polaroid Corporation. Harriman's associated properties included: the Southern Pacific Railroad (including the Central Pacific Railroad), Illinois Central Railroad; Wells Fargo & Co.; the Pacific Mail Steamship Co.; American Shipping & Commerce (HAPAG), the American Hawaiian Steamship Co., United American Lines Co.; the Guarantee Trust Company and the Union Banking Corporation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Averell_Harriman
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Alex G

05/16/08 6:07 PM

#331921 RE: 3Saints #331896

IMO it's water under the bridge so to speak, but if the brush clearer in charge wants to compare current politicians to Nazi appeasers then he is fair game as well


http://www.newshoggers.com/blog/2008/05/the-other-shril.html

By Ron Beasley

When it comes to being critical of the Bush administration it wasn't the left that first called for the impeachment of George W. Bush. It wasn't the left that first compared the Bush administration to the Nazi regime. It was Libertarian Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury in the Reagan administration and former associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. His response to Bush's Knesset speech was as shrill as anything from the left.

On May 15, the White House Moron, in a war-planning visit to Israel, justified the naked aggression he and Olmert are planning against Iran as the only alternative to "the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history."

But the White House Moron has the roles reversed. It is not Iran that is threatening war. It is Bush. It is not Bush who is appeasing. It is Iran.

Iran has not responded in kind to any of Bush’s warlike moves and provocations. Iran has not sunk a single one of our sitting-duck ships and has not given the Iraqi insurgents any weapons that would easily turn the tide of war against the US.

It is Bush, not Iran, who sounds like Adolf Hitler blustering and threatening. It is Bush’s American Brownshirts, the neocons, who express the view: "what’s the good of nuclear weapons if you can’t use them."

It is the US that is funding assassination teams inside Iran and using taxpayer dollars to fund dissident and violent organizations opposed to the Iranian government. Iran is doing no such thing here.

It is members of the Bush Regime and US generals who continue to lie through their teeth about Iranian support for insurgents, for which they can supply no evidence, and about Iranian nuclear weapons programs, for which the IAEA inspectors can find no sign.

It is the US print and TV media that serves the Bush Regime as propaganda ministry for its lies of aggression.

All the war crimes that are being planned are being planned by Bush and Olmert.

What would George Orwell make of the Bush Regime’s position that anything less than a direct act of naked aggression is appeasement?


This is why many if not most of the Libertarians will not vote for Bush clone, John McCain. Dr Roberts used to be the darling of the right wing talk shows until about six years ago when he started speaking out against the Bush/Cheney/neocon cabal.