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04/24/04 9:57 PM

#6120 RE: XV19 #6117

Your point about emotions is 100% right on DK. This stock will trade at what ever price people want it to trade at. I remember a gambling dotcom a few years ago that shot up to unheard of prices merely by mentioning that they planned on filing to become a listed company.

And its difficult to foresee where Frank plans on taking us with respect to share structure. Right now we are being told that the outstanding is 7.5 to 9 B. The actual "float" may be less than half of this in order for Frank to remain majority shareholder.

And "Wallstreetblues'" scenario (#6114) on the buyback certainly seems logical.

But there are even other intangibles that are difficult to foresee. It's difficult to recall the details now, but a few years ago when GAAY morphed into QBID, Frank told us that he had retired a huge block of his closely held GAAY shares in order to help shareholders out on the exchange ratio. (And a last minute adjustment in the numbers did actually take place as I recall.)

Anyway, and please don't even consider this to be even a rumor, but I could kind of see a similar magnanimous gesture from Frank once again as he proceeds with the restructure.

For example, as the buyback proceeds, perhaps he's figuring that he'll retire a portion of his closely held shares in tandem.

Should that happen, not only will the float go down, but the outstanding shares could go down twice as fast as with the buyback alone.

It's additional hypotheticals like this that have to be factored-in to whatever emotions are driving share price IMO.

Ron
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U4TSAF2

04/24/04 11:23 PM

#6127 RE: XV19 #6117

NUMEROUS COMPANIES TRADE ON THE PINKS.

YOU HAVE MANY COMPANIES THAT TRADE FROM $.0001 ALL THE WAY UP TO OVER $100/SHARE. THIS IS ANOTHER MISCONCEPTION AND TO THINK UPGRADE IS NECESSARY THAT IS WRONG.

THE FACT IS ECNC DID IN FACT JUMP FROM .03 TO $18/SHARE. THAT DID IN FACT HAPPEN. SO TO SAY THAT THE O/S OR MARKET CAP OR WHAT-EVER IS COMPLETELY WRONG; IT'S NOT ONLY WRONG IN RESPECT THAT IT'S WRONG AT FACE VALUE, BUT HERE'S A STOCK THAT DID IT AND THAT SPEAKS MORE THAN SOMEONE TRYING TO TELL US WHAT CAN AND CAN'T HAPPEN.

PLUS ALL THE NUMEROUS OTHER COMPANIES THAT DID THROUGHOUT THE 1990'S.



Posted by: dkgross
In reply to: ralph3 who wrote msg# 6113 Date:4/24/2004 8:09:52 PM
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just remember, Ralph...ECNC went from .03 to $18 on emotions and BS press releases in two weeks (of course, it was a complete scam and the CEO is now in jail...)

strange things DO happen. QBID could run to the $2 range on emotion and momentum alone IF they actually get a signal up and Direct TV/Dish or someone starts offering.

but..I agree with you.... .40-.50 cents is a much more viable and realistic price point once a lot of shares are retired, and until some revenue, profits, and LEGIT SEC FILINGS start to happen. Damn..I just can't pound that point into the ground enough. As a pinkie, the Big Boy investors are NOT going to play this. OTC BB is a minimum, and at least two quarters of SEC filings MUST HAPPEN.