Replies to post #41842 on Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

[Chris McConnel]

More trees to deal with excessive CO2?

[fishweed]

Zeev, correct me if I'm wrong but Kyoto simply monetizes pollution..........does it not permit buying and selling pollution credits.......are they listed on the CBOE yet <gg>

fishweed

[CoalTrain]

Zeev, did you hear about the arguments that increasing atmospheric co2 is connected more to increased Volcanic activity than with cars? I think a few respectable journals published some of the work.

CT

[Chris McConnel]

From the Union of Concerned Scientists


Are humans contributing to global warming?

In 1995, the world's climate experts in the IPCC concluded for the first time in a cautious consensus, "The balance of evidence suggests that there is a discernible human influence on the global climate."

In its 2001 assessment, the IPCC strengthened that conclusion considerably, saying, "There is new and stronger evidence that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities."

Scientists have found significant evidence that leads to this conclusion:

     • The observed warming over the past 100 years is  
        unlikely to be due to natural causes alone; it  
        was unusual even in the context of the last  
        1,000 years. 
 

     • There are better techniques to detect climatic  
        changes and attribute them to different causes. 
 

     • Simulations of the climate's response to  
        natural causes (sun, volcanoes, etc.) over the  
        latter half of the 20th century alone cannot  
        explain the observed trends. 
 

     • Most simulation models that take into account  
        greenhouse gas emissions and sulphate aerosols  
        (which have a cooling effect) are consistent  
        with observations over the last 50 years. 

http://www.ucsusa.org/global_environment/global_warming/page.cfm?pageID=497

[Chris McConnel]

Scientists' Statement on Climate Change
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The scientific consensus around climate change is robust. To make this point clear to policy makers in Washington, D.C., more than 1,000 scientists from across the nation have signed the State of Climate Science letter. This letter, from experts in the field, outlines the consensus on the anthropogenic component to climate change. In doing so, the letter reconfirms reports by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and the National Research Council that the consequences of climate change, which is driven in part by emissions of heat-trapping carbon dioxide, will be both disruptive and costly to the United States.


THE STATE OF CLIMATE SCIENCE: OCTOBER 2003
United States Senate
Washington, DC 20510

Dear Senators Frist and Daschle:

Two years have elapsed since the publication of the most recent reports by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and the National Research Council (NRC) on the state of the science of climate change and its impacts on the United States and the rest of the world. As scientists engaged in research on these subjects, we are writing to confirm that the main findings of these documents continue to represent the consensus opinion of the scientific community. Indeed, these findings have been reinforced rather than weakened by research reported since the documents were released.

In brief, the findings are that:

1) Anthropogenic climate change, driven by emissions of greenhouse gases, is already under way and likely responsible for most of the observed warming over the last 50 years—warming that has produced the highest temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere during at least the past 1,000 years;

2) Over the course of this century, the Earth is expected to warm an additional 2.5 to 10.5 °F, depending on future emissions levels and on the climate sensitivity—a sustained global rate of change exceeding any in the last 10,000 years;

3) Temperature increases in most areas of the United States are expected to be considerably higher than these global means because of our nation's northerly location and large average distance from the oceans;

4) Even under mid-range emissions assumptions, the projected warming could cause substantial impacts in different regions of the U.S., including an increased likelihood of heavy and extreme precipitation events, exacerbated drought, and sea level rise;

5) Almost all plausible emissions scenarios result in projected temperatures that continue to increase well beyond the end of this century; and,

6) Due to the long lifetimes of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, the longer emissions increase, the faster they will ultimately have to be decreased in order to avoid dangerous interference with the climate system.

Evidence that climate change is already under way includes the instrumental record, which shows a surface temperature rise of approximately 1°F over the 20th century, the accelerated sea level rise during that century relative to the last few thousand years, global retreat of mountain glaciers, reduction in snow cover extent, earlier thawing of lake and river ice, the increase in upper air water vapor over most regions in the past several decades, and the 0.09°F warming of the world's deep oceans since the 1950s.

Evidence that the warmth of the Northern Hemisphere during the second half of the last century was unprecedented in the last 1,000 years comes from three major reconstructions of past surface temperatures, which used indicators such as tree rings, corals, ice cores, and lake sediments for years prior to 1860, and instrumental records for the interval between 1865 and the present.

On the subject of human causation of this warmth, the NRC report stated that, "The IPCC's conclusion that most of the observed warming of the last 50 years is likely to have been due to the increase in greenhouse gas concentrations accurately reflects the current thinking of the scientific community on this issue." Indeed, computer simulations do not reproduce the late 20th century warmth if they include only natural climate forcings such as emissions from volcanoes and solar activity. The warmth is only captured when the simulations include forcings from human-emitted greenhouse gases present in the atmosphere.

In summary, the main conclusions of the IPCC and NRC reports remain robust consensus positions supported by the vast majority of researchers in the fields of climate change and its impacts. The body of research carried out since the reports were issued tends to strengthen their conclusions.

Sincerely,

(See list of Signers)


http://www.ucsusa.org/global_environment/global_warming/page.cfm?pageID=1264