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Trinityz1

05/16/08 4:02 AM

#110321 RE: Mattu #110320

It's a good idea except for paying members.
It certainly might keep down the TOU violations by free members.
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Phil(Hot Rod Chevy)

05/16/08 6:09 AM

#110325 RE: Mattu #110320

I think if a freebie posts ten posts in one day and 8 of them get deleted, they need a few days in jail or the boot.

I like the idea of reducing their posts for each post that gets deleted, but for more than a day. How about a week?

Phil


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MikeDDKing

05/16/08 7:44 AM

#110326 RE: Mattu #110320

I think that is a good idea but I also think you might need to ignore certain deleted post types such as duplicate or possibly deleted by author request.

Mike
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Stock Stallion

05/16/08 7:54 AM

#110327 RE: Mattu #110320

I love the idea matt, would really cut down on the garbage posted, thats for sure. like water on a desert, they would use what they have more wisely. :)
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Trops

05/16/08 8:35 AM

#110328 RE: Mattu #110320

Matt,I like the idea also.More in Phil's camp with longer vacation days for abusers.Bob :))
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JoeSmith

05/16/08 8:52 AM

#110329 RE: Mattu #110320

Would the fines be doubled, like in a work zone, for abusive mods
who could use this technique to silence critics?
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IH Geek [Dave]

05/16/08 1:34 PM

#110351 RE: Mattu #110320

>>Also, have you ever considered reducing the number of allowed posts per day by ONE for each DELETED POST an alias puts up? i.e. if you were allowed 10 posts per day, and 8 of your posts today were deleted, tomorrow you get TWO posts... like that.>

Me no likey. Too easy for users to limit posts by other users. In case you haven't explored the admins' tools on beta lately, we have much improved visibility to post/deletion/(restore) stats by user/and board/(and mod).

I will gladly pay you on Tuesday for a hamburger today.
-- Popeye's friend Wimpy
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rebelgirl

05/16/08 4:49 PM

#110369 RE: Mattu #110320

>>Also, have you ever considered reducing the number of allowed posts per day by ONE for each DELETED POST an alias puts up? i.e. if you were allowed 10 posts per day, and 8 of your posts today were deleted, tomorrow you get TWO posts... like that.

I vote Yes!
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IH Dan (Retired)

05/16/08 5:10 PM

#110373 RE: Mattu #110320

Also, have you ever considered reducing the number of allowed posts per day by ONE for each DELETED POST an alias puts up? i.e. if you were allowed 10 posts per day, and 8 of your posts today were deleted, tomorrow you get TWO posts... like that.

The idea might work but I would first like to read the specific details of how it might be done.

There are some problems like when deleted posts gets restored or what if the deletion was a dupe or author request etc.

How long would the reduced post limit last.

How would the post limit ever get back up to the 15 (or 10).? After what period of time? What criteria?
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IH Admin [Shelly]

05/16/08 5:30 PM

#110375 RE: Mattu #110320

Also, have you ever considered reducing the number of allowed posts per day by ONE for each DELETED POST an alias puts up? i.e. if you were allowed 10 posts per day, and 8 of your posts today were deleted, tomorrow you get TWO posts... like that.

If the goal is less deletions, I'm not convinced this would be a deterrent.

I could be naive here, but I don't think most non-subscribers purposely post messages they know will be deleted. I know that many of the Users I talk with throughout the day (and review a lot of deletions) Users are vehemently defending the post and protesting the removal.

I would also be concerned about the additional workload I think this would create. I would imagine that we would spend our time debating with Users even more than we currently do whether a message should have been deleted.

Touching on what Dave said, I also think there would be an additional pressure for bias to creep in on the person removing the message. There are gray areas, there are posts interpreted differently depending on who is reading them, some Mods allow more ot than others, etc.

If we wanted to make a change similar to this, I would favor something along the lines of rewarding Users who stay within the TOU. For example, X posts when you sign up. As soon as 50 messages have been posted with, let's say, less than 3% deletion ratio, then it ups to X. After this, let's say 500 posts and less than 3% deletion ratio, then you're increased to X. Then a sliding scale downwards also. If you've achieved X posts, start violating the tou regularly i.e. 100 posts with greater than a 10% deletion rate, then you'd be dropped back down to the previous level.

This would be an incentive for people to learn the rules and stay within the TOU which I think is what we're looking for here.

I understand there could be many of the same concerns I pointed out earlier. However, I think it would be more successful to reward instead of punish.
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Stevenvegas

05/16/08 6:54 PM

#110405 RE: Mattu #110320

Make everyone pay something for the right to post. Even if it's 5 bucks a month for 15 per day. Would cut down the hiding of one person behind multiple free accounts and make the accountants happy. :-)
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Stock

05/22/08 7:55 PM

#111296 RE: Mattu #110320

Matt, Here's a fun question:

Apparently, aliases with no posts are allowed to PeopleMark other iHub aliases. I am reading public posts on your web site that say the reason some people create multiple free aliases with no posts is to simply PeopleMark their premium alias -- or other special people -- to multiple favorites lists, BoardMark certain message boards, then logout and begone with these free accounts.

Do you think this this true?

Also, have you all considered the possibility of requiring that all aliases make AT LEAST ONE POST before they are allowed to use certain features of the web site? Like PeopleMarks and BoardMarks.

And finally, when an alias is booted, are all their BoardMarks and PeopleMarks terminated as well?

Thanks. And have a great evening.