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03/19/08 8:03 AM

#585828 RE: lee kramer #585824

Good morning, Agree with Cramer... he stated a few major points which I made.

I am the bottom caller and I see nice bottom... LOL :-)



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Last Tuesday the Dow rose 415 points, the most in five years. By Friday, Bear Stearns was almost bankrupt. So after jumping 420 points today, why would investors think this time will be any different?

Cramer said he has 10 reasons, actually, that this could be the bottom we need. Here’s a summary, David Letterman style.

1. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson woke up. Big Hank’s no longer touting President Bush’s “the fundamentals are sound” message. Finally, he’s will to do whatever it takes to keep the system from breaking down.

2. Mortgages bonds actually traded up today, in part, Cramer said, because there’s talk of a Washington allowing Fannie Mae
Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae)
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[FNM 28.22 --- UNCH (0%) ] to buy back its own bonds. This would mean lower mortgage rates, and the chance for homeowners to refinance.

3. Lehman Brothers and Goldman Sachs reported strong quarters despite the odds.

4. Stocks outside the bank sector, such a Nucor
Nucor Corp
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[NUE 74.45 --- UNCH (0%) ] and CSX
CSX Corp
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[CSX 54.66 --- UNCH (0%) ], are actually hitting 52-week highs. This “real economy,” as Cramer calls it, seems to be in decent shape.

5. The Federal Reserve bailout of Bear Stearns
Bear Stearns Co Inc
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[BSC 5.91 --- UNCH (0%) ] proved there’s virtually no risk of losing any money you might have in an investment firm. That wasn’t always the case.

6. That Bear Stearns bail out solidified a plan for bailing out a failing bank should a similar event surface in the future.

7. Momentum names like Apple
Apple Inc
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[AAPL 132.82 --- UNCH (0%) ], Google
Google Inc
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[GOOG 439.16 --- UNCH (0%) ], Intuitive Surgical
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[ISRG 294.75 --- UNCH (0%) ] and First Solar
First Solar Inc
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[FSLR 204.02 --- UNCH (0%) ] are showing signs of life again.

8. Brokers want investors back in the game, so Cramer expects them to low-ball Wednesday’s Visa IPO to entice potential buyers. Can’t get your hands on any? Buy Mastercard
MasterCard Inc
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[MA 210.25 --- UNCH (0%) ] instead.

9. The biggest bull on Wall Street, Abby Joseph Cohen, who stayed bullish through this, the worst bear market in years, retired yesterday. “I always love a good irony trade,” Cramer said.

10. The market rallied despite Ben Bernanke’s best efforts to hold us back. He talked about inflation in his statement, only cut rates by 75 basis points instead of 100 and it still didn’t matter.

For more on Cramer’s 10 reasons this is the bottom we need, and why Canadian banks are guilty by association, watch the video.


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03/19/08 8:03 PM

#585991 RE: lee kramer #585824

Keynesian ideas were bankrupt to begin with. Gold was not $215 in 1933 . . . Gold was around $21 . . . the $20 coin that FDR confiscated had almost one ounce of gold in it. Try to explain how gold went from $21/oz to $215 without inflation.

Keynsian ideas did not even save American economy (or German economy for that matter, as Hitler too adopted a Keynsian economic program; e.g. the Autobahn building) . . . all the government spending, taxing and inflating only served to prolong recession into the Great Depression. Americans actually had a very good idea that such big programs didn't work. The big Keynsian programs did not start with FDR, but Hoover . . . remember, it's called Hoover Dam not FDR Dam. American voters elected FDR on the platform that he would terminate all of Hoover's wasteful government spending programs. Well, the compulsive lier FDR ran his administration exactly opposite to what he promised during the campaign (just like his stand on keeping Americans out of war). The result? prolonged economic recession and war, and the American Empire, with promises of even more American blood and treasure wasted so that someone in the clique could get rich off those big government programs.