http://www.s3investments.com/media/ They reported 3rd qtr on 6/25 2007, then on 11/13/2007 they refer to 2007 revenues, that had me scratching my head too. Although Redwood is getting all the focus lately, I'm very interested in Sino Uje, they actually have made money and seem to be evolving nicely with new clients. Now if Redwood can succeed, KABOOM !